[RUS] Putin - the most moderate Russian politician acceptable to the Russian public

Sean Lynch seanl at literati.org
Mon Sep 26 11:27:54 PDT 2016


On Fri, Sep 23, 2016, 17:16 Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:

> What many in the West don't get is that many Russians are a patriotic
> lot, and hardy in their nationalism, and with the history of the world
> since perestroika, they carry now a not insignificant disdain for "the
> West".
>
> Putin really is the most moderate politician that is actually
> acceptable/ electable in Russia.
>
> And this is not a comment on the particular man, Vladimir Putin, but on
> the political positions or nature of him - by Russian sensibilities he
> is very moderate, excessively accomodating to the Western regimes, and a
> bit too much of a "weak pussy" who ought to have stepped in and
> militarily protected the Donbass (the area where the Russian people in
> Eastern Ukraine live), should teach the West a royal lesson in Syria,
> and generally dish out some Russian justice to the axis of Western evil.
>

You do realize you're insulting Russians by calling them jingoists, right?
But I guess you don't realize that, since you seem to think calling someone
a "nationalist" is a compliment.

This is like saying that we should be happy that PETA is only trying to ban
horsemeat, and we shouldn't fight them on it, because what they REALLY want
to do is ban ALL meat and pet ownership and force us to be vegetarians. Or
let's go ahead and give Poland to the Nazis, because that's just a tiny
thing compared to what they REALLY want!

I get that Russians are pissed about how they've been treated since the end
of the Cold War. Far longer, really. Just like I get that Germans were
pissed about how they were treated after they lost WWI. You see where I'm
going with this?

The solution in both cases, by the way, is TRADE. When goods cross borders
in sufficient quantities, ICBMs won't. But the Russians seem to want the US
to be run by a Putinesque strong man, too. One who thinks trade is a weapon
to deployed only when it suits one's own interests. You seem to think
Hillary has her finger on the nuclear button, but the fact of the matter is
Trump does too. The major difference between the two is that Hillary
actually knows it, whereas Trump is suffering so badly from Dunning-Kruger
(as are you, AFAICT, assuming you aren't simply a paid propagandist) that
he genuinely thinks he'd make us safer by returning us to a pre-WWII world
of 30% tariffs and trade wars.

>
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