flexthismotherfucker

Razer rayzer at riseup.net
Fri Sep 16 17:28:30 PDT 2016



On 09/16/2016 11:56 AM, grarpamp wrote:


> 
> For all we know, all these China / Russia attacks are the NSA / CIA or simply
> US political parties and corporates cracking these boxes through nine proxies
> and taking a whack back at their opponents in the US.

This is my take. It makes the nation with the zombie computers look like
a worthwhile enemy. Hence Russia is being bandied about and the
no-proof-whatsoever bad guy.

I want to add a lot of the spying Snowden exposed was
INDUSTRIAL/INSTITUTIONAL. Imagine the advantage you would have if you
had a hook on Germany's economy by playing with insider info on their
markets?

I say the info is being passed of to that conglomerate of corps
dedicated to keeping the Internet as 'associates' of the US government,
clean (I don't remember it's official name) and the whole thing about
'russian attacks' is a ruse to hide the fact the NSA is 'bouncing' off
Chinese or Russian or... computers. Stealing US biz dox, and giving the
dataz to their corporate bffs to profit from. Just like a mafia. Because
corporatist governments ARE mafias.

That's my flier, and I'm sticking to it. :>

Rr

> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 5:55 AM, Ben Tasker <ben at bentasker.co.uk> wrote:
>> I've seen more boxes in China that were very poorly secured than not
>>
>> China's
>> a good place to originate from if your aim is to make it difficult for
>> anyone in the Western World to trace a connection back to your real location
>> - at least by legal methods.
> 
> The NSA GPA likes to think it's operating legally, and due to secrecy and secret
> orders and cover and spin and expendables, powers don't give a fuck if it's not.
> If whitehat CERT like teams can track stuff on the surface, you can bet govt
> can do it in the deep.
> 
> For all we know, all these China / Russia attacks are the NSA / CIA or simply
> US political parties and corporates cracking these boxes through nine proxies
> and taking a whack back at their opponents in the US.
> 
> It's all a game, play on.
> 


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