Google is amazing

[Razer]

On 09/13/2016 10:47 AM, Sean Lynch wrote:
> Having used both Gmail and SpamAssassin for filtering mail to this
> address, which I've had since 1996, I've found SpamAssassin to be vastly
> superior in terms of false positives. Gmail doesn't seem to be that much
> better in terms of false negatives even. Pretty disappointing.
> 
> I used to have a filter that prevented Gmail from marking cpunks mail as
> spam, but I have intentionally avoided fixing that since the list
> address changed in hopes of training it not to suck so bad. So far I
> don't seem to have had much luck.
> 
> One thing I did notice is that by default when you block a sender on
> Gmail it sends their messages to the spam folder instead of deleting
> them, which could mean its training the spam filter on them as well. If
> a lot of people do that, it could cause the spam filter to think other
> cpunks messages are also spam instead of just, say, Cypher Piggie's.


Or you could set the filter to mark all from "Cypher Piggie" as spam
instead. At least I think this is possible. Currently all I use Gmail
for is newsletters.

Rr

> 
> The solution for me is going to be to stop using Gmail once I find the
> time to set up my scandalous basement server. The easier solution is
> just to set up a filter with "never mark as spam" as someone else
> suggested whom I would credit by name were I not typing this on my phone
> in the bathroom.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 20:13 Razer <rayzer at riseup.net
> <mailto:rayzer at riseup.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     On 09/12/2016 08:00 PM, juan wrote:
>     > On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:40:00 -0700
>     > Razer <rayzer at riseup.net <mailto:rayzer at riseup.net>> wrote:
>     >
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On 09/12/2016 01:36 PM, juan wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>     It is marking something like 50% of the list's posts as
>     >>> spam and so forcing me to log into their shitty web interface. It is
>     >>>     really amazing that the masters of the universe can't get a
>     >>>     fucking spam filter working.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Whah! Whah!
>     >>
>     >> Make a filter so that anything from the list never gets marked as
>     >> junk.
>     >
>     >
>     >       Yeah. I think that 'feature' didn't exist a while back, but Zen
>     >       just told me about it.
>     >
>     >
>     >> Then google will know the list mail is VERY important to you.
>     >
>     >       ^-^
>     >
>     >
>     >       Here's another way in which google is amazing. If I try to log
>     >       with JS disabled, their shitty 'security' system will be
>     >       triggered. They can't even put a note explaining that they
>     >       want you to turn JS on.
>     >
>     >
> 
>     You can still use the old html type page ("If you have a slow
>     connection") I don't think it requires Jscript to function correctly at
>     the client but I'm sure the page is loaded with it anyway so the server
>     can note which ads your mouse.hover-s over etc.
>