New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent

Stephen D. Williams sdw at lig.net
Fri Sep 9 00:58:41 PDT 2016


On 9/8/16 7:17 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> On 09/08/2016 10:03 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> > On 09/08/2016 07:39 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> >> On 09/05/2016 12:15 PM, Александр wrote:
>
>
> >> Well that's odd.  I wonder what it's about?  Splitting the list
> >> into what?  Two with different themes?  One Moderated and one
> >> Unmoderated?
>
> > There are many lists out there for stuff that Александр and Zenaan
> > are posting. It's not that cypherpunk is apolitical. Rather, it's
> > that stuff which simply bashes one side or the other, but has no
> > particular connection to crypto and its social/economic/political
> > role/potential is just plainly off-topic.
>
> Sounds right to me.
+1
>
> - From my own posting history it's clear that I don't mind pushing
> content that addresses the methods of practical politics, and some of
> the theory behind same.  The connection of this to crypto etc. is that
> it illustrates contexts in which crypto (and by extension pretty much
> all network security considerations) can be productively used to
> support political means and ends.  Hence relevant to threat models,
> product designs, education and support activities for crypto-centric
> applications.
>
> So far I'm not getting flamed for that.
+1
>
> >> If the latter, that's a perilous course.  One sees a lot of
> >> "twin" lists and such that are one sterile and stereotyped, the
> >> other totally overrun with tards.  Because once upon a time, half
> >> or more of the people on the original list who took an interest
> >> in keeping it alive /without/ censorship bailed, and those who
> >> stayed behind were gradually overwhelmed.
>
> > There's no need to do anything with the cypherpunks list. If
> > people object to off-topic crap, they can say so. If people object
> > to being criticized for posting off-topic crap, they can deal with
> > it or leave. That's just how unmoderated lists work.
>
> Also sounds right to me.  Don't let's pretend we can't do it - some of
> the subscribers on this list are veterans of USENET.

Yes, for years, especially early on before the Web.  I setup and ran uucp links for email too.  I even engineered a satellite
uplink/downlink over satellite channels normally used for fax transmission.  LIG stands for "The Local Internet Gateway" company.

>
> "Cypherpunks of the world unite - You have nothing to lose but your
> barbed wire!"
>
> ;o)
>

sdw

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