Continual Violation of List Charter

[Razer]

On 09/04/2016 02:19 PM, juan wrote some telling information about 'where
he's been'; a 'place' some of us may not have 'been to'..


> Families and businesses are dictatorial beacause they operate
> 	in a dictatorial environment - child raising tends to be pretty
> 	dictatorial per se. What is your point. 

I've said this before. Your world is lonely and miserable.

Rr





> On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 00:22:04 -0700
> "Stephen D. Williams" <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/3/16 11:32 PM, juan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 	Playing with the 92-98 archive...
>>>
>>>
>>> From: tcmay at got.net (Timothy C. May)
>>> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:48:20 PDT
>>> To: cypherpunks at toad.com
>>> Subject: Re: CYPHERPUNK considered harmful.
>>>
>>>
>>> 	"Similarly, there's the Libertarian Party, with similar
>>> themes to our own..."
>>>
>>>
>>> 	"Getting back to your suggestion that "we" change the name
>>> to something more respectable. How could "we" do this, given that
>>> 	"we" are an effective anarchy?" 
>>
>> The group was "an effective anarchy".  So is hanging out with your
>> friends.  Corporations (and families for that matter) are,
>> classically, dictatorships.  Does that make the political and
>> economic system they operate in dictatorships too?
> 
> 
> 	Families and businesses are dictatorial beacause they operate
> 	in a dictatorial environment - child raising tends to be pretty
> 	dictatorial per se. What is your point. 
> 
> 	My point was to inform people that the 'themes' of the
> 	cypherpunk 'movement' are supposed to be libertarian themes
> 	(forgetting for a second that the US libertarian party is a
> 	joke)
> 
> 
> 
>>
>>> 	"Form your own group, your own mailing list, with a catchy
>>> 	name, something like "The Privacy Education Foundation," or
>>> 	"The American Civil Liberties Union" (whoops, taken), or
>>> "The Society for the Preservation of Cyberspatial Liberty."
>>> "
>>> 	"Evolution in action. The market in action. A better
>>> approach than trying to get the name and the charter changed."
>>
>> A market in action...
> 
> 	My point is that the CHARTER of the mailing list is supposed to
> 	be LIBERTARIAN. 
> 
> 
>>
>>> ps: messages from the great philosopher Stephen D. Williams? 77 in
>>> total, stopped posting in 1995 - messages are either content free or
>>> nerdy, useless, technical stuff.
>>>
>> And firewalls:
>> http://www.greatcircle.com/firewalls/archive/firewalls.199502
>>
>> We were talking about crypographic and security related topics, like
>> firewalls and protocols, time stamping services (which I implemented
>> a couple times for widely used services), etc.
> 
> 
> 	Cool. And you sabotaged them as well, as per orders from your
> 	government I assume. Why don't you tell us about that? 
> 
> 
> 
>>  I even found time to
>> correct Tim May, who cried uncle sort of. ;-)  I happened to have
>> personal knowledge of that situation.
>>
>> I wasn't mature enough to philosophize much then.
> 
> 
> 	And you think you are know? Do you know the etymology of the
> 	word "philosophy", I suppose? 
> 
> 	Philo-sophy means love of knowdlege/wisdom. See, the requirement
> 	for philosophy is not 'maturity'(whatever you mean by that).
> 	The requirement for philosophy is the love of truth and
> 	intellectual honesty.
> 
> 
> 	
> 
>>
>> I lurked later, being extremely busy implementing things and other
>> pursuits.
> 
>>
>> sdw
>>
>