Suggestion to list admins for warning/disclaimer on the web for new subscribers

oshwm oshwm at openmailbox.org
Sun Sep 4 10:37:56 PDT 2016


Should the list really be forwarding new people to pastebin considering
it sits behind Cloudflare?

Or maybe the list really isn't what it used to be?

oshwm.

On 04/09/16 18:33, Greg Newby wrote:
> Dear Zenaan, Georgi:
> 
> Good suggestions, thanks!  I edited the list public HTML based on what's below, and also the nice Pastebin article that was posted here recently.
> 
>   https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo
> 
>   - Greg
> 
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 09:31:12PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 02:23:48PM +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote:
>>> The wikipedia page on cypherpunks have nothing to do with the current
>>> state of this list. History gets rewritten (from experience).
>>>
>>> I suggest after list discussion the list admins to put a warning on the
>>> list web page. Something along the lines of (clearly needs rewriting):
>>>
>>> ====
>>> The list is not it used to be and has nothing to do with the wikipedia
>>> page.
>>>
>>> The list has spooks, paid trolls, other similar whores and possibly
>>> crackpots.
>>>
>>> Some of them post actively, others rarely.
>>>
>>> Their motivation might include:
>>> * social engineering
>>> * manipulating opinions
>>> * profiting from the past reputation of the term cypherpunk
>>> * killing the list
>>>
>>> "What You See is NOT What You Get"
>>>
>>> Use common sense when reading or posting to the list.
>>> ====
>>
>> Excellent suggestion - full disclosure and pre-forewarning is highly
>> recommended. We have a duty of care to newcomers to make sure they don't
>> get involved in anything they might want to not get involved in, and
>> they ought be suitably forewarned :)

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