Playing with overlay networks

[Georgi Guninski]

I think tor should not be used for anything of importance.

What if tor allows code execution by design and it is heavily
obfuscated?

On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 07:56:33PM -0600, Mirimir wrote:
> So let's say that a bunch of us have Tor onion servers. They're linked
> to each other via OnionCat with ip4ip6 tunnels. With IPv4 routing so
> each can hit the others. And with iptables rules (IPv4 and IPv6) to drop
> packets to/from everyone else running OnionCat. Maybe even
> HiddenServiceAuthorizeClient/HidServAuth to lock down access.
> 
> What might we do with that? We might create an overlay Internet, I
> suppose. Given how long OnionCat has been around, there are probably a
> few of those. I doubt that OnionScan[0,1] would see the connections,
> given that there are no hyperlinks, and better, no unauthorized access.
> 
> But more specifically, what? BitTorrent, for sure ;) LizardFS works, so
> we could have private and shared cloud storage, backed by globally
> redundant, erasure-coded storage.
> 
> What about VPN services? Say, with two VPS linked via OnionCat. You hit
> VPN server as an onion service, and exit through one of many redundant
> VPS. We already have <https://i2vpn.eu/>. So maybe chain that with VPNs
> via onion services. What do y'all think?
> 
> And what about Freenet or I2P on an OnionCat network? Or one of the P2P
> messaging apps? Or even old-school Mixmaster?
> 
> Back to basics, would any of that help against global adversaries? It's
> very hard to evade observation of network edges. You can have lots of
> chaff, but then that itself can be a signature.
> 
> [0] https://github.com/s-rah/onionscan
> [1]
> https://motherboard.vice.com/read/these-maps-show-what-the-dark-web-looks-like