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[juan]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:59:16 -0700
"Stephen D. Williams" <sdw at lig.net> wrote:

> On 9/1/16 1:35 PM, juan wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:21:19 -0700
> > "Stephen D. Williams" <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/1/16 1:16 PM, juan wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:34:53 -0700
> >>> "Stephen D. Williams" <sdw at lig.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Our
> >>>> political system limits and weeds out crazy, preventing it from
> >>>> taking over.  
> >>> 	The US is full of crazy fucks like you, and of course the
> >>> % of crazy fucks among politicians, military murderers and the
> >>> 	corporate mafia is even higher. 
> >>>
> >> Says one of the craziest people most of us know.
> >>
> >> You have a loose definition of crazy.  Or a crazy definition of
> >> crazy.
> >>
> >> But I'll ask anyway: What's your evidence?
> >
> > 	Reality. And reality is exactly what crazy people have
> > problem grasping. 
> 
> My reality is more real, and therefore more correct, than your
> reality.  Prove me wrong.
> 
> So, let's go back to my statement:
> "Our political system limits and weeds out crazy, preventing it from
> taking over."
> 
> Prove that isn't true.

	You made the crazy claim, you should prove it. However
	since you are one of those crazies you talk about, you can't do
	it. 

	And I actually have zero interest in reading the kind of stuff
	that a hitlery clinton supporter (you in this case) can write. 

	And to make things even crazier, you are a hitlery clinton
	supporter posting in an allegedly crypto-anarchist mailing list.
	The ANARCHIST bit should clue you in...if you were not out of
	touch with reality (i.e. crazy)





> Especially prove that it isn't true for
> Americans.  The US government kept functioning normally even through
> a civil war, world wars, 3 industrial revolutions, all kinds of
> corruption, etc.  Here, I'm not talking about exceptionalism in
> general, just the point that if crazies make it into power, they are
> limited and don't last.  Point out a better system.  (The British are
> said to no longer be making fun of our political system as of
> Brexit. ;-) )
> 
> I don't have time to get into it, but I think that the exceptionalism
> perception, the quality of it, meaning, and use, is overblown in some
> key ways.  We have evidence that certain things work and certain
> things don't.  There is a big interplay with culture and back stories
> that affect some of that, but most of it could transfer anywhere.
> Maybe we're confused sometimes, but we have open debate to try to fix
> that.  We regularly fix things that aren't working with only things
> like rights as being inviolable.  It isn't 'we are Americans and
> therefore you suck'.  It is more like "we have this cool open source
> government project, why not fork it and see if it works for you
> better than that old governmentware you're running".  We are tired of
> being asked to fix your old broken down governmentputer because you
> insist on running VMS and Windows.  Or your cousin's obsolete system
> because you can't support them well.  Or whatever.  If you can make
> it work, then do it.  Otherwise, upgrade.
> 
> sdw
> 
> >> sdw
> >>
> 
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