Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!

Razer rayzer at riseup.net
Sat Nov 26 07:05:43 PST 2016



On 11/25/2016 10:45 PM, John Newman wrote:
> Drugs prohibition is fucking heinous.
> I don't think it matters what the substance is.  Locking an addict up
> does not cure them =)
>
> It's all a bad fucking joke - a "war" to perpetuate a vested interest
> in keeping prison populations high (and profitable), to systematically
> fuck a certain cross section of society (blacks, the poor), and to
> keep people on all sides of the issue scared.
>
>
>
> John


The option taken... If you EVER get out on the streets where the drugs
are sold and used, is to decriminalize, not medical-ize, and THEN  give
them gubmint checks in the hopes the drug user kills themself off in
some motel room saving taxpayers money.

That IS the libertarian solution to the problem. Another reason why
refer to Libertarians are self-centric fascist scum in every convo I
have about them

Rr

>
> On Nov 26, 2016, at 12:40 AM, Razer <rayzer at riseup.net
> <mailto:rayzer at riseup.net>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 11/25/2016 09:31 PM, juan wrote that variation in dosage of
>> natural substance:
>>
>>> makes dosage unreliable. 
>>
>> It might be part of the reason you're not ending up with bad heart
>> valves too, schmuck.
>>
>> Or maybe it's the manitol so commonly used to cut it and 'make dosage
>> unreliable' to boot is what destroys one's heart valves. Or maybe
>> baby laxative isn't so popular anymore and coke stupes walk around
>> constipated like a junkie... Like they have dick up their ass.
>>
>> Rr
>>
>> Ps. "TOO MUCH of the stuff"
>>
>> Did I mention the derivatives are MUCH easier to get addicted to?
>> When you're an addict "TOO MUCH
>> of the stuff" doesn't exist in your reality.
>>
>> You're 'talking yourself into a hole'.
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:07:39 -0800
>>> Razer <rayzer at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2016 08:39 PM, juan wrote:
>>>>> 	quick note on evil chemical compounds
>>>>>
>>>>> 	methamphetamine is a semi synthetic derivative of ephedrine,
>>>>> 	ephedra having a long history in chinese culture
>>>>>
>>>>> 	morphine is a fully natural green product manufactured by
>>>>> 	mother nature - semi synthetic heroin is a minor variation
>>>>> of morphine
>>>>>
>>>>> 	lsd25 is a semi synthetic derivative of lysergic acid, in
>>>>> turn derived from natural occuring ergot alkaloids
>>>>>
>>>>> 	many of shulgin's psychodelic amphetamines are variations
>>>>> on the mescaline theme.
>>>>>
>>>>> 	Cocaine, DMT, psylocibin - all manufactured in vivo by
>>>>> Nature Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> 	See a pattern here? All the stuff comes from green 
>>>>> 	eco-friendly plants or small tweaks of 'natural' molecules.
>>>>>
>>>>> 	Strychnine comes straight off the plant. And cannabis is a
>>>>> 'sacrament' - lol!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You forgot cocaine. 
>>> 	
>>> 	Did I? 
>>>
>>> 	"Cocaine, DMT, psylocibin - all manufactured in vivo by Nature
>>> 	Inc."
>>>
>>>
>>>> So let's use it as an example. Peruvians chew the
>>>> Coca leaves and it allows them to function well at high altitudes
>>>> because it assists the transfer of oxygen from the blood to the brain
>>>> and body tissue, like the Amino creatine also does, and it seems to
>>>> have no bad effects on the consumers
>>>>
>>>> NOW, purify it from the Coca leaves 
>>> 	Yep,  that seems to be another important thing you do not know.
>>> 	The amount of active compounds in plants varies a lot and that
>>> 	makes dosage unreliable. So it makes sense to  extract and
>>> 	instead use the pure compounds.  
>>>
>>>
>>>> and consume it regularly at sea
>>>> level from, lets say your early/mid 20s when you get your first
>>>> computer industry job. You'll be seeing a cardiologist about bad
>>>> heart valves by the time you're 50 or 60. Guaranteed. 
>>> 	Yep. And the problem is, obviously, taking TOO MUCH of the
>>> 	stuff, not that it was extracted.
>>>
>>> 	"Alle Dinge sind Gift und nichts ist ohne Gift, allein die
>>> 	Dosis macht es, dass ein Ding kein Gift ist." 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> But that may be
>>>> due to all the mood meds you're taking b/c occasional incidents of
>>>> psychosis.
>>>>
>>>> Listen stupid (that's you Juan) I've been around drug culture all my
>>>> life. 
>>> 	
>>>
>>> 	Still you don't seem to know the abc of pharmacology...Which is
>>> 	nothing but common sense of course.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The difference between the relatively benign effect of organic
>>>> substances 
>>>> on the human organism and the destructive effect of it's
>>>> 'purified' ingredient is profound and easily noticeable to anyone,
>>> 	They are the SAME substance. There's no 'organic' or
>>> 	'inorganic' cocaine. The alkaloid inside the plant is no
>>> 	different from the isolated 'pure' form.
>>> 	
>>> 	 But hey, go eat some green organic 'unpurified' plant material
>>> 	 containing a nice dose of strychnine and come back. Will you?
>>> 	 =P
>>>
>>>
>>>> across the board, except perhaps the cooker and dealer who don't
>>>> notice because they generally don't consume the crap they sell or
>>>> live where it's considered a curse on the community it's destroying.
>>>>
>>>> Rr
>>>>
>>>>
>>

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