CNN - asking the right questions

[John Newman]

Thanks for link, I rather liked it =)

I always liked what Eco I've read (only Foucault's Pendulum, 
and the Name of the Rose...)

John


On November 23, 2016 11:55:00 PM EST, Razer <rayzer at riseup.net> wrote:
>I refer to Umberto Eco as the (snigger) "Authority"
>
>It doesn't take much to understand fascism. 9 pages and 14 ways of
>looking at a Blackshirt is plenty.
>
>http://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf
>
>z9wahqvh:
>> a more reasonable right-wing definition of fascism is one offered by
>the
>> guy who invented it, Benito Mussolini (actually mostly by his court
>> philosopher Giovanni Gentile). Here's just one important part (more
>here:
>> http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/mussolini-fascism.asp):
>> 
>> For Fascism, the growth of empire, that is to say the expansion of
>the
>>> nation, is an essential manifestation of vitality, and its opposite
>a sign
>>> of decadence. Peoples which are rising, or rising again after a
>period of
>>> decadence, are always imperialist; and renunciation is a sign of
>decay and
>>> of death. Fascism is the doctrine best adapted to represent the
>tendencies
>>> and the aspirations of a people, like the people of Italy, who are
>rising
>>> again after many centuries of abasement and foreign servitude. But
>empire
>>> demands discipline, the coordination of all forces and a deeply felt
>sense
>>> of duty and sacrifice: this fact explains many aspects of the
>practical
>>> working of the regime, the character of many forces in the State,
>and the
>>> necessarily severe measures which must be taken against those who
>would
>>> oppose this spontaneous and inevitable movement of Italy in the
>twentieth
>>> century, and would oppose it by recalling the outworn ideology of
>the
>>> nineteenth century - repudiated wheresoever there has been the
>courage to
>>> undertake great experiments of social and political transformation;
>for
>>> never before has the nation stood more in need of authority, of
>direction
>>> and order. If every age has its own characteristic doctrine, there
>are a
>>> thousand signs which point to Fascism as the characteristic doctrine
>of our
>>> time. For if a doctrine must be a living thing, this is proved by
>the fact
>>> that Fascism has created a living faith; and that this faith is very
>>> powerful in the minds of men is demonstrated by those who have
>suffered and
>>> died for it.
>>>
>> 
>> notice all that emphasis on "decadence," on the expansion of Empire,
>on the
>> "strength" of "the nation," on militarism? it's pretty hard to make
>that
>> work with the creation of social security and welfare programs (aka
>The New
>> Deal), or FDR's patent lack of interest in the kind of militaristic
>> nationalism that -- oh, he eventually went to war against, but only
>after
>> being dragged kicking and screaming, mostly through the US being
>attacked
>> directly.
>> 
>> but what did Mussolini know about fascism (despite being the leader
>of the
>> actual movement that gave us the word)?
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:26 PM, z9wahqvh <z9wahqvh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         I wonder what an 'updated' new deal is considering that the
>>>>         Original New Deal was chemically pure fascism...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> in which Juan-who-swears-he's-not-an-authoritarian-right-winger
>>> demonstrates that he gets his analysis of fundamental political
>categories
>>> from authoritarian right wingers (the only people--especially Hayek
>himself
>>> and National Review editor Jonah Goldberg--who describe the New Deal
>as
>>> having anything whatsoever to do with fascism, which it did not).
>>>
>>>
>> 
>
>-- 
>RR
>"You might want to ask an expert about that - I just fiddled around
>with
>mine until it worked..."

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