US: Post Election Protests

[John Newman]

> On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:26 PM, juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:06:33 -0500
> John Newman <jnn at synfin.org> wrote:
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>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Razer <rayzer at riseup.net> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical
>>> nonsense:
>>> 
>>>> Violence ended slavery in the South. 
>>>> Violence created the so called "land of the free" =)
>>>> 
>>>> Sometimes it's the solution. 
>>>> 
>>>> John
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Violence is a tactic. It can LEAD to a solution but it is not the
>>> solution itself
>> 
>> Yes , truly spoken.
>> 
>> The thing about violence is - science has advanced so many "wonderful
>> ways" for us to kill ourselves,
> 
> 
>    Not meaning to re-start a flame war =P,  but I think you mean
>    technology, not science. Yes, technological development is
>    (partly) related to what can be called 'basic' science but
>     they are distinct. 
> 
> 
>> it becomes increasingly obvious
>> humanity needs to either disavow war altogether (how to do that I
>> have no idea) or face the inevitable conclusion that we are going to
>> fucking destroy ourselves.
> 
>    That's a possibility, but it doesn't strike me as too
>    consistent with the 'science' of 'biology' - How many examples
>    of species that commit collective suicide are there? Why should
>    human *animals* be different? Even inter species competition
>    doesn't lead to complete destruction usually.
> 
>    On the other hand, given the trends in 'networking' and
>    totalitarianism, it wouldn't be too surprising if the human
>    race became some sort of collective entity in which our ruling
>    monsters (say google and clinton) would act as a 'brain'. 
> 
> 


Bostrum (the simulation hypothesis guy) has some interesting thoughts on the future of humanity that basically boil down to a few possibilities, one of which is humanity locking itself (forever) into some sort of totalitarian dystopia similar to what you outline. 

Fundamentally I think this is the same thing as destroying ourselves outright.



> 
>> Fermi paradox solved =)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John
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