[Cryptography] USG v. Lavabit-Snowden Files Unsealed

[Cari Machet]

And the guy that started telegram wasnt even treated this way in russia ...
they asked to access accounts for a platform he developed he said no and
left the country never to return thats why we have telegram ... he just
moves around the planet prolly has a swiss like untouchable bank account or
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If people are surprised by this kind of USG action then that for me is
scary .. USG been seriously dead long time now - never was really alive as
it likes to propagandize
On Mar 17, 2016 3:55 PM, "Bill Cox" <waywardgeek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, this is scary.  It sounds like Lavabit was fined $5,000 per day until
> it handed over the encryption keys for its email service, and that Lavabit
> further had a gag order and could say nothing about it.  Here's the text of
> this order:
>
> ORDER
>
> This matter comes before the Court on the motion of the government for
> sanctions for failure to comply with this Court's order entered August 2,
> 2013. For the reasons stated in the government's motion, and pursuantto
> Title 18, United States Code. Section 401, it is hereby ORDERED that the
> motion for sanctions is granted; It isfurther ORDERED that, if the
> encryption keys necessary to implement the pen register and trap and trace
> device are not provided to the FBI in PEM or equivalent electronic formal
> by noon (CDT) on August 5, 2013, a fine of five thousand dollars
> ($5,000.00) shall be imposed on Lavabit LLC and Mr. Levison; It is further
> ORDERED that, if the encryption keys necessary to implement the pen
> register and trap and trace device are not provided to the FBI in PEM or
> equivalent electronic format by noon (CDT) each day thereafter beginning
> August 6, 2013, a fine of five thousand dollars ($5,000.00) shall be
> imposed on Lavabit LLC and Mr. Levison for each day of noncompliance; and
> It is further ORDERED that the government's motion for sanctions and this
> Order shall remain under seal until further order of this Court
>
> As an ethical matter, I believe our government should tell its citizens
> what form of spying on our private communications it is doing, and under
> what conditions.  Seeing our government do this sort of thing in secret
> scares the heck out of me.  It is certainly not what I thought would happen
> in the USA.
>
> Bill
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:39 PM, John Young <jya at pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>> USG v. Lavabit-Snowden Files Unsealed:
>>
>> https://cryptome.org/2016/03/usg-lavabit-unsealed.pdf (560 pp, 140MB)
>>
>> Precursor to USG v. Apple.
>>
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