Closed CPU's and Fabs Untrustworthy

grarpamp grarpamp at gmail.com
Thu Jun 16 22:23:05 PDT 2016


On 6/17/16, juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 	Any-way, what's the point of bothering running any sort of
> 	'secure' software on wholly compromised hardware...?

There isn't. But blatant risk taking is apparently fun for humans
to engage in ;)

> 	I naively admit I wasn't aware of the fact that americunts
> 	(intel/amd) had sunk that low, but then again that's rather
> 	stupid on my part.

Don't worry, many people don't know Intel's NIC's are involved
in it too, all documented on Intel's site. Which means like
any good manufacturer, they left themselves (and whoever
their buddies or daddies are) nice little magic packet backdoors
to the otherwise "secure" AMT, before even getting packet
to the CPU gates and userland.

> 	Question remains, addressed to people interested in
> 	'security' :
>
> 	Nobody seems to be trying to fix 'our' fundamental problem...?

I certainly not first to suggest starting open version of cpu and fab,
but people cry 'impossible', and 'cost v benefit', 'time', bawl waah.

Musk said fuck all that anti BS and is going to Mars.

> 	All the talk about snowden, tor, 'hacking' and similar
> 	propaganda is...well...propaganda.

There are facts in there.

But what is the fundamental problem?
Surveillance? Secrets? Structures?

The human genome?



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