Instead of only bashing tor, why not discuss the alternatives?

[Sean Lynch]

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:05 AM juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 06:56:56 -0400
> John <jnn at synfin.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On July 21, 2016 5:21:04 AM EDT, juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:51:49 +0000
> > >Sean Lynch <seanl at literati.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:59 PM juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:44:16 +0300
> > >> > Georgi Guninski <guninski at guninski.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Instead of only bashing tor, why not discuss the alternatives
> > >> > > and move to something allegedly better?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >         We need to get rid of tor first. Resources wasted on tor
> > >are
> > >> >         resources that can't be used in good projects.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> They are not your resources to redirect,
> > >
> > >     No they are not mine. They belong to the people who the US
> > >     gov't/military robs. No taxes no tor.
> >
> > Well, phrasing I guess, but most of the relays just belong to
> > volunteers.
>
>         Apologies John, I really don't mean to pick on you
>         personally.
>
>         I'd point out though that the organization exists thanks to
>         state funding. The whole thing would be rather different if all
>         the participants were volunteers.
>
>         (are all high speed nodes also run by and paid for volunteers?)
>

Whatever I may think of your other beliefs about the organization, the
funding model is definitely a problem. Same goes for Mozilla taking money
from Google, MS, eBay, etc. Organizations building important infrastructure
need to be independent.


>
> > I run a relay most of the time, although I dont consider
> > it one of the top 5 or even top 10 services I maintain on that
> > particular box... It's kind of just a half ass interesting service to
> > fuck with occasionally.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
>
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