the most annoying thing about Juan

jim bell jdb10987 at
Wed Jul 20 12:51:22 PDT 2016

 From: Sean Lynch <seanl at>
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:27 AM Александр <afalex169 at> wrote:

2016-07-20 20:32 GMT+03:00 Rayzer <rayzer at>:

Sorry Passion is no excuse for rumor-mongering.

 I just happen to know WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE who have been falsely accused like this.

Innocent until proven guilty. That's the way it's supposed to work in 'Merica. 

that's the way it MUST work in any normal society/person's head. Otherwise it's medieval inquisition. Period.

>So you're saying you'd do business with someone that several people said robbed them? Let an accused child molester be alone with your kids >because they were never convicted?
>There are different standards of proof for different functions. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is not necessary for "we don't want this person >associated with our project/company/etc". No standard whatsoever is required for an individual deciding with whom to do business, who to trust >to watch their kids or housesit, etc.
I absolutely agree with your statement.  Too many people forget that "beyond a reasonable doubt"and "innocent until proven guilty" are simply terms which apply to the American (and British, and others)legal systems, and don't automatically apply to all other human interaction.  (That doesn't mean that we should somehowadopt "guilty until proven innocent"). 
               Jim Bell

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