Attempted coup d'etat in Turkey - probable conclusion

Rayzer rayzer at riseup.net
Mon Jul 18 19:54:19 PDT 2016


On 07/18/2016 04:33 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 07:24:42AM -0700, Rayzer wrote:
>>
>> On 07/17/2016 11:02 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>> This sounds compelling and conclusive. Let's see.
>>> Good news for Syrian nationalism, not good news for Kurdish project.
>>>
>> You've got to explain... HOW can an ISIS-enabling Islamist be "Good news
>> for Syrian nationalism..."?
> Because Syria is Russias very long term national partner, and Turkey is
> also making up with Russia. ISTM that Turkey will back off completely
> now and stop sending the jihadis to Syria.

That's because the plan changed. The US and Russia are going to divvy up
Syria now. Partition time. OFC that won't happen overnight, but it's now
inevitable.

>
> Could be wrong of course, but I don't think Russia would accept
> rapproachment if Turkey keeps fighting Syria. I.e., Erdogan will have
> his hand in the Russian Turk Stream money pot, and will give up Syrian
> ISIS oil smuggling trade in return - he will make MUCH more money
> shipping Russian gas, then laundering ISIS oil. Just pragmatism.
>

That's great for Turkey (barring the scenario I presented above), but I
don't see that it's in any way good for "Syrian nationalism"...

....and that was the question at hand.



As far as your other missive's link goes:

    Erdogan Taunts Obama Over Coup Attempt in Turkey
    Erdogan will not forgive the Obama administration for leading him up the
    garden path on Syria, convincing him that Washington was leaving no
    stone unturned to overthrow the Assad regime
    http://atimes.com/2016/07/erdogan-taunts-obama-over-turkeys-coup-bid/



Erdogan's hand is ISIS, and they're already all over Europe thanks to
the Russian AF rout, and they ARE mixed in with the refugee population,
and they HAVE terrorized those refugees to not talk, and IF Erdogan
doesn't get a BIG part of the Syrian Partition pie... Selah...

Rr





>
>> Perhaps you didn't read what you wrote
>> before hitting the send button", or perhaps you mean something quite
>> different than what most people understand as "Good news".
>>
>> Rr
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hell Hath No Fury Like a Teflon Sultan
>>>
>>> "For all practical purposes Erdogan now controls the Executive, the
>>> Legislative and the Judiciary – and is taking no prisoners to purge the
>>> military for good."
>>>
>>> Pepe Escobar
>>>
>>> http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20160717/1043158581/erdogan-turkey-coup.html
>>>
>>> (Alt:
>>> http://russia-insider.com/en/hell-hath-no-fury-teflon-sultan/ri15659
>>> )
>>>
>>
>
>
>

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: text/html
Size: 3991 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/attachments/20160718/f8769c47/attachment-0002.txt>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 836 bytes
Desc: OpenPGP digital signature
URL: <https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/attachments/20160718/f8769c47/attachment-0003.sig>


More information about the cypherpunks mailing list