Tor Replaces Its Entire Board

Rayzer rayzer at
Sat Jul 16 08:35:20 PDT 2016

I agree with everything said here. Jacob Appelbaum wears counterculture
on his sleeve. ... Some thing I remember most developers did WAY back
when personal computing first got off the ground. Wozniak, Jobs and the
rest would get shit-faced out at the Albatross on Portola while Moby
Grape played. The Chateu up on the summit and Zayante Club were
basically weekend retreats for coders to get away, smoke a bunch of
Killer Local Bud, and decompress before going back to their breadboards
and eye-destroying green-black dot-matrix montiors.

The cops used to pick up bleary-eyed tie-dye shirt wearing local coders
wandering the streets of Santa Cruz early in the morning thinking they
were 'woods hippies' to be harassed.

Now it's about money power and ego. Those rubes compromise easily. They
'drop trou', as the brits say.

But the ones who are in 'for the love of it' .... You have to dig dirt.


On 07/16/2016 04:50 AM, grarpamp wrote:
> On 7/15/16, John Newman <jnn at> wrote:
>> Wtf is or was so important about Appelbaum that would lead to any kind of
>> massive conspiratorial smear campaign? Who gains from taking him down?
> On both... Are you fucking kidding me?
> Even before Snowden censored himself and Assange got locked down...
> He's one of the outspoken few that was still out traveling around the world
> bringing knowledge of Tor / privacy / human rights / surveillance etc the
> whole scope... with zero fear and a solid compelling presentation based
> on personal conviction and experience. Others at Tor mostly stayed
> to the conference rooms, he was transcending personal rooms even
> before joining Tor...
> Here he is talking on the subject with a roomful of Muslims in Quwait...
> And you want to know who wants to take him down, and how?
> Get real. Get fucking real.
> Don't expect the new Tor board to support similar work
> in the future even if someone doing it fell into their lap.
> It's too hot topic, and they'll be too busy playing politik
> and law with their US Government now anyway.
> Historical narratives indeed...

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