TheCthulhu (CthulhuSec)'s Insurance File

Michael Best themikebest at gmail.com
Mon Jan 18 19:53:07 PST 2016


>
> Would not all of our intelligence agencies stand to gain in collective
> intelligence by helping those who are morally opposed to the game, to
> exit the game, and **live to speak of it**??


Absolutely. It's a shitty situation for some counterintelligence folks
since it boils down to something that only hurts their Intel Community and
helps the opposition but there's nothing inherently wrong/bad with the
effort and the people behind it might not even be indirectly sponsored by a
foreign intelligence service.

This is a serious question for those of you who swore an oath to uphold
> the constitution and still believe you are doing it. You have collegues
> who are abusing you, your friends, and demeaning the very organization
> you work for. The greatest danger to national security is those that
> keep and use secrets for personal gain and power.


I personally think that in most cases it's better to make a difference from
inside than outside. There are exceptions and situations where that's
impossible, of course, and sometimes an external shock to the system is
necessary to instigate change... but it's always uncontrolled. I want
people to stick around to fix things, not exit and point out the problems.
That's a very personal choice with a lot of variables though, so I respect
people that come to a different conclusion.

If you do not wish to exit, then make it so others can, easily, simply,
> and quietly. There is no need for unintended acceleration when someone
> wants to slow down and get out.


100% agree, with the additional thought that the exit interviews should try
to find a way to 1. solve the problem and 2. hopefully retain the employee.

Or, at the very least, what secrets can you gain from the other side(s)
> when their battered and broken soldiers have had enough? Is this not worth
> the investment in allowing a graceful exit?


And now we get into the CI nightmare again. It can be a ripe field for
recruiting, theoretically. At least one study (I think more, but can't be
sure off the top of my head) has shown that for people who were current and
active personnel at the time, ideology played a relatively low motivation
in betrayals and leaks (to the press or foreign agencies). Usually it's
money or revenge, both of which could certainly play a role for people
exiting the service.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer at hozed.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 09:55:31PM -0500, Michael Best wrote:
> > https://insurance.thecthulhu.com/
> >
> >
> > > I would like to ask the public for help. My freedom may soon be
> > > compromised, and therefore I require assistance to see out a final
> stage.
> >
> > I cannot comment on the contents of the container below other than it
> > > contains pdfs, word documents, powerpoints, images and a few sql dumps.
> > > Every person who downloads this for the record is doing a service for
> > > democracy, and should hold people accountable for their atrocities.
> > > When the time comes, I will ensure the passphrase for the container is
> > > published either through myself or by proxy. I am not the only person
> with
> > > it either.
> > > To my friends out there, here is something to consider:
> > > https://www.intelexit.org
> > > I will not be intimidated. I am not afraid. I know the consequences,
> and I
> > > accept them.
> > > With the power of democracy, comes the responsibility of defending it
> from
> > > any threat.
>
> Fascinating stuff.
>
> And because I had a little too much paranoia to drink this morning, which
> nation-state(s) are sponsoring intelexit with double and triple agents?
>
> But let's think about this... Let us use the power and paranoia that comes
> from living in the no such agency in a match of psycho-therapeutic ju-jitsu
> in which German intelligence, the Mossad, and China collaborate to provide
> post-traumatic stress disorder treatment for all of our wounded information
> warriors.
>
> Would not all of our intelligence agencies stand to gain in collective
> intelligence by helping those who are morally opposed to the game, to
> exit the game, and **live to speak of it**??
>
> This is a serious question for those of you who swore an oath to uphold
> the constitution and still believe you are doing it. You have collegues
> who are abusing you, your friends, and demeaning the very organization
> you work for. The greatest danger to national security is those that
> keep and use secrets for personal gain and power.
>
> If you do not wish to exit, then make it so others can, easily, simply,
> and quietly. There is no need for unintended acceleration when someone
> wants to slow down and get out.
>
> Or, at the very least, what secrets can you gain from the other side(s)
> when their battered and broken soldiers have had enough? Is this not worth
> the investment in allowing a graceful exit?
>
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