from Zenaan - was Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Stephen D. Williams
sdw at lig.net
Fri Feb 26 08:31:21 PST 2016
@Travis:
I am always on the lookout for self-parodying performance art!
But, alas, this is what started it all:
> The error that the other server returned was:
> 550 5.1.1 <cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org <mailto:cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org>>... User unknown
Is there supposed to be an alias for cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org to point to cypherpunks at cpunks.org ?
I suspect that the address was mistyped once, and now address auto-complete keeps choosing it. I constantly use Thunberbird
autocomplete, but I've had problems sending messages to the wrong people with the same first name... I should add better contextual
scoping to that mechanism.
@Zenaan: @Александр:
But do carry on with your hair trigger freakout. You have a ways to go to challenge the masters of that.
sdw
On 2/26/16 8:08 AM, Travis Biehn wrote:
> Is this self-parodying performance art?
>
> -Travis
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Александр <afalex169 at gmail.com <mailto:afalex169 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Zenaan Harkness:
> OK, new threads by me are definitely getting rejected, and
> instantaneously too...
> Due to a separate rejection, I take it that cross-posting has also
> been banned for my email address.
>
>
> I will not do any run around of creating (or using) an alternate email
> address especially for cp at .
> That's just an arms race and as I've always said:
> -*it has been and remains my intention to respect the intentions of
> the founders/ creators of this mailing list*
>
> Whaaaat???
> Who told you the "creators" of this mailing list did that to you? Dont you forget our friends from the NSA.
> And second question is... have they got this kind of right to ban someone from the list?
> *It contradicts the whole concept of the cypherpunk idea/ls.*
>
> If any of you have a suggestion for an alternate mailing list, I would
> certainly consider joining.
>
> Me too.
>
> PS, if anyone wants to post this email publicly, I certainly consent
> to you doing so.
>
> i post this reply with your letter to cypherpunk list right now.
>
> On 2/26/16, Zenaan Harkness <zenaan at gmail.com <mailto:zenaan at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > OK, new threads by me are definitely getting rejected, and
> > instantaneously too...
> >
> > Due to a separate rejection, I take it that cross-posting has also
> > been banned for my email address.
> >
> > I will not do any run around of creating (or using) an alternate email
> > address especially for cp at .
> > That's just an arms race and as I've always said:
> > - it has been and remains my intention to respect the intentions of
> > the founders/ creators of this mailing list
> >
> > So whoever is running/ administrating this list has decided they want
> > to clip my wings. In principle that's fair enough, BUT:
> >
> > - no one ever emailed me offlist or onlist saying that they are an
> > administrator of the list and that they wanted me to post less, or to
> > meet some other conditions
> > - such behaviour is cowardly, like a stab in the back
> > - such behaviour provides no opportunity for me to respect the
> > administrator(s) of the list - since they never owned up to being an
> > administrator, and never admitted to me their requirements about
> > posting less or in some other way, they are being cowardly and
> > providing no opportunity to me, to meet their requirements
> > - I do not accept cowardly behaviour from list administrators
> > - I thought cp@ was not a list of cowards, or for cowards
> >
> > I am not interested in participating in half a mailing list (one where
> > I can only receive emails and reply to other people, but not post new
> > threads and not cross-post).
> >
> > I am not interested in participating in a mailing list where temporary
> > (or permanent) restrictions are put in place without notice to the
> > person being restricted. I will not accept such cowardly behaviour.
> >
> > SO, short of the cypherpunks list administrator(s) apologising to me
> > for their cowardliness, and reinstating my posting privileges for my
> > primary email address, and stating clearly their requirements for
> > posting to the list, and doing this publicly on the list so other
> > people know the requirements for posting to the list, then I shall
> > remove myself from this so-called "community" and find some other
> > place where who I am is respected, and where cowards are told to grow
> > the fuck up! Some place where children are not pretending they're
> > adults with their cowardly behaviour.
> >
> > Alex, Juan, Jim, coderman and Steve, in one way or another you have
> > eached gained my respect. Thank you each for being who you are. If any
> > of you have a suggestion for an alternate mailing list, I would
> > certainly consider joining. I am still not in a stable enough living
> > environment nor with any ADSL internet access, so I am still not in a
> > position to set up an email server myself - but I am confident that
> > this situation will change within about 1 year.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Zen
> >
> > PS, if anyone wants to post this email publicly, I certainly consent
> > to you doing so.
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon at googlemail.com <mailto:mailer-daemon at googlemail.com>>
> > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:38:22 +0000
> > Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> > To: zenaan at gmail.com <mailto:zenaan at gmail.com>
> >
> > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> >
> > cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org <mailto:cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org>
> >
> > Technical details of permanent failure:
> > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
> > server for the recipient domain cpunks.org <http://cpunks.org> by mail.jfet.org <http://mail.jfet.org>.
> > [209.141.47.85].
> >
> > The error that the other server returned was:
> > 550 5.1.1 <cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org <mailto:cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org>>... User unknown
> >
> >
> > ----- Original message -----
> >
> > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
> > d=gmail.com <http://gmail.com>; s=20120113;
> >
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> > R9oA==
> > X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
> > d=1e100.net <http://1e100.net>; s=20130820;
> >
> > h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date
> > :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type;
> > bh=HTwElgxrr/XkjYUfGVqhcjP320J6MHEbke6eOismL/I=;
> >
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> > 1hMQ==
> > X-Gm-Message-State:
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> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > X-Received: by 10.140.93.166 with SMTP id
> > d35mr58532521qge.29.1456439895793;
> > Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:38:15 -0800 (PST)
> > Sender: zenaan at gmail.com <mailto:zenaan at gmail.com>
> > Received: by 10.55.64.68 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:38:15 -0800 (PST)
> > In-Reply-To:
> > <CAOsGNSQG=0z3uT0WaTWQvK8th3v2B6p3fd9u7+6ML_Txhib_OQ at mail.gmail.com
> <mailto:0z3uT0WaTWQvK8th3v2B6p3fd9u7%2B6ML_Txhib_OQ at mail.gmail.com>>
> > References:
> > <CAOsGNSQG=0z3uT0WaTWQvK8th3v2B6p3fd9u7+6ML_Txhib_OQ at mail.gmail.com
> <mailto:0z3uT0WaTWQvK8th3v2B6p3fd9u7%2B6ML_Txhib_OQ at mail.gmail.com>>
> > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:38:15 +0000
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> > Subject: Re: A sane platform for president - what is your fundamentals for
> > Eben Moglen?
> > From: Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net <mailto:zen at freedbms.net>>
> > To: cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org <mailto:cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
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