from Zenaan - was Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

Travis Biehn tbiehn at gmail.com
Fri Feb 26 08:08:58 PST 2016


Is this self-parodying performance art?

-Travis

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Александр <afalex169 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Zenaan Harkness:
>> OK, new threads by me are definitely getting rejected, and
>> instantaneously too...
>> Due to a separate rejection, I take it that cross-posting has also
>> been banned for my email address.​
>>
>>
>> I will not do any run around of creating (or using) an alternate email
>> address especially for cp at .
>> That's just an arms race and as I've always said:
>> -
>> * it has been and remains my intention to respect the intentions ofthe
>> founders/ creators of this mailing list*
>>
>> Whaaaat???
> Who told you the "creators" of this mailing list did that to you? Dont you
> forget our friends from the NSA.
> And second question is... have they got this kind of right to ban someone
> from the list?
> *It contradicts the whole concept of the cypherpunk idea/ls.*
>
> If any of you have a suggestion for an alternate mailing list, I would
>> certainly consider joining.
>>
> Me too.
>
> PS, if anyone wants to post this email publicly, I certainly consent
>> to you doing so.
>>
> i post this reply with your letter to cypherpunk list right now.
>
> On 2/26/16, Zenaan Harkness <zenaan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > OK, new threads by me are definitely getting rejected, and
>> > instantaneously too...
>> >
>> > Due to a separate rejection, I take it that cross-posting has also
>> > been banned for my email address.
>> >
>> > I will not do any run around of creating (or using) an alternate email
>> > address especially for cp at .
>> > That's just an arms race and as I've always said:
>> > - it has been and remains my intention to respect the intentions of
>> > the founders/ creators of this mailing list
>> >
>> > So whoever is running/ administrating this list has decided they want
>> > to clip my wings. In principle that's fair enough, BUT:
>> >
>> > - no one ever emailed me offlist or onlist saying that they are an
>> > administrator of the list and that they wanted me to post less, or to
>> > meet some other conditions
>> > - such behaviour is cowardly, like a stab in the back
>> > - such behaviour provides no opportunity for me to respect the
>> > administrator(s) of the list - since they never owned up to being an
>> > administrator, and never admitted to me their requirements about
>> > posting less or in some other way, they are being cowardly and
>> > providing no opportunity to me, to meet their requirements
>> > - I do not accept cowardly behaviour from list administrators
>> > - I thought cp@ was not a list of cowards, or for cowards
>> >
>> > I am not interested in participating in half a mailing list (one where
>> > I can only receive emails and reply to other people, but not post new
>> > threads and not cross-post).
>> >
>> > I am not interested in participating in a mailing list where temporary
>> > (or permanent) restrictions are put in place without notice to the
>> > person being restricted. I will not accept such cowardly behaviour.
>> >
>> > SO, short of the cypherpunks list administrator(s) apologising to me
>> > for their cowardliness, and reinstating my posting privileges for my
>> > primary email address, and stating clearly their requirements for
>> > posting to the list, and doing this publicly on the list so other
>> > people know the requirements for posting to the list, then I shall
>> > remove myself from this so-called "community" and find some other
>> > place where who I am is respected, and where cowards are told to grow
>> > the fuck up! Some place where children are not pretending they're
>> > adults with their cowardly behaviour.
>> >
>> > Alex, Juan, Jim, coderman and Steve, in one way or another you have
>> > eached gained my respect. Thank you each for being who you are. If any
>> > of you have a suggestion for an alternate mailing list, I would
>> > certainly consider joining. I am still not in a stable enough living
>> > environment nor with any ADSL internet access, so I am still not in a
>> > position to set up an email server myself - but I am confident that
>> > this situation will change within about 1 year.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Zen
>> >
>> > PS, if anyone wants to post this email publicly, I certainly consent
>> > to you doing so.
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon at googlemail.com>
>> > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:38:22 +0000
>> > Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
>> > To: zenaan at gmail.com
>> >
>> > Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>> >
>> >      cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org
>> >
>> > Technical details of permanent failure:
>> > Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
>> > server for the recipient domain cpunks.org by mail.jfet.org.
>> > [209.141.47.85].
>> >
>> > The error that the other server returned was:
>> > 550 5.1.1 <cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org>... User unknown
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original message -----
>> >
>> > DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
>> >         d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
>> >
>> > h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject
>> >          :from:to:content-type;
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >          R9oA==
>> > X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
>> >         d=1e100.net; s=20130820;
>> >
>> > h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date
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>> >         bh=HTwElgxrr/XkjYUfGVqhcjP320J6MHEbke6eOismL/I=;
>> >
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>> >          1hMQ==
>> > X-Gm-Message-State:
>> >
>> AG10YOQkeCLfQTlTygaAo2pvfPPTrKtT4dHj+741KUByO3hji+2FOcqAJ1QD4HYl9thETnU47zL4LNVBBwIieg==
>> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>> > X-Received: by 10.140.93.166 with SMTP id
>> > d35mr58532521qge.29.1456439895793;
>> >  Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:38:15 -0800 (PST)
>> > Sender: zenaan at gmail.com
>> > Received: by 10.55.64.68 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:38:15 -0800
>> (PST)
>> > In-Reply-To:
>> > <CAOsGNSQG=0z3uT0WaTWQvK8th3v2B6p3fd9u7+6ML_Txhib_OQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> > References:
>> > <CAOsGNSQG=0z3uT0WaTWQvK8th3v2B6p3fd9u7+6ML_Txhib_OQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:38:15 +0000
>> > X-Google-Sender-Auth: CnxMVt6WvC7DvbEQhsq0PMLZarg
>> > Message-ID:
>> > <CAOsGNSQRsHDjaBqo_5b1K8jPknD2yN6LR1A6ruHoKs7N44r=rA at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: A sane platform for president - what is your fundamentals
>> for
>> >  Eben Moglen?
>> > From: Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net>
>> > To: cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>>
>
>
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