Impressive US shamelessness

Shelley shelley at
Wed Feb 24 15:26:02 PST 2016

...what does this have to do with cypherpunks?

I'm no fan of much of what this government does, but it gets old.  
Especially when that's not really within the scope of the list, unless 
there is a crypto or code aspect to it.  Also, using Russia Today as a 
primary source is like using Faux News or the National Enquirer tabloid 
(though the latter actually has gotten a few stories right.  Still not sure 
about BatBoy, though ;) )


On February 24, 2016 3:16:46 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen at> wrote:

> No it's -not- a bash America list, it's a name the fucking shovel
> list. Since Syria is no longer "just a little CIA regime change op",
> the 'big guns' find it difficult to hide their true intentions (which,
> as we see from the very end of this article, are often times precise
> embedded as their accusations of others :)
> What a world we live in...
> ---
> Kerry Says If Ceasefire Fails He May Partition Syria
> Because, you know, God made him the owner of Syria
> Mark Nicholas
> That's Western 'nation-building' and international law for you
> John Kerry is an incredible motivator! He has just told (
> ) Syrian jihadi-controlled (
> ) rebellion that all it has to do is sabotage the upcoming ceasefire
> he has agreed to with Moscow and he will reward them with a mini-state
> carved out from Syria. What better incentive to abide by the deal and
> cease hostilities could he possibly give them?
>     John Kerry, the US secretary of state, has said he will move
> towards a plan B that could involve a partition of Syria if a planned
> ceasefire due to start in the next few days does not materialize, or
> if a genuine shift to a transitional government does not take place in
> the coming months.
> Oh yes, you may have thought that "partition" is a bad word, but
> that's only true when the Russians do it (
> ). When Americans partition a foreign country (Korea, Vietnam,
> Yugoslavia, Serbia, Sudan) that is actually a good thing.
> Which presents us with a problem since Kerry is apparently willing to
> invite Putin to help with the partition:
>     Kerry suggested partition could form part of an eventual solution,
> saying “this can get a lot uglier and Russia has to be sitting there
> evaluating that too. It may be too late to keep it as a whole Syria if
> it is much longer”.
>     It is the first time Kerry has spoken of partition, although some
> believe Putin would be content to see this happen.
> This creates a moral problem for us because while a unilateral
> partition of Syria by the virtuous US would be a good thing, a joint
> US-Russian partition would be tainted by the virtue of having evil
> Russian paws over it.
> Hopefully the Russian nation-breaking dictator will decline the offer
> of the nation-building Obama Administration official and avert the
> possibility of American-Russian collusion in breaking up a sovereign
> third country.
> PS. Wasn't it just a short few weeks ago that the West was accusing
> Moscow of plotting partition of Syria (
> ) ?  How times change.
> kerry.jpg with quote

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