[Fwd: Multiple Internets]

[Cari Machet]

i am reminded of my visit to tesla in serbia

his story tells a tail of defeat by the powers but his is not the only and
final story

rabbit hole:

also to my knowledge his archive is there but the USG confiscated his US
archive and it was freed in 2013 but i have not looked into that
declasification from top secret ... to what i dont know...

http://www.tesla-museum.org/meni_en/nt.php?link=arhiva/a&opc=sub5

http://www.teslasociety.com/archive.htm

there are problems with the digitization process

http://www.tesla-museum.org/meni_en/nt.php?link=arhiva/a&opc=sub5

some fbi files are linked here:

http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_mispapers.html

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anyway the point of bringing it up is that in spite of the powers making
structural decisions for the globe i still think it is possible to work
around them

and i am not sure this original post of johns is really that interesting

to what point is he posting it? knowns?

there is overall a harnessing of the structures in the minds of people
meant to thwart development and all fronts need work to shift this out >
from trash collecting to nasa stuffs

i think catagorizing what is known is archival but our minds can engage
more substantive constructs







On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Cari Machet <carimachet at gmail.com> wrote:

> there are mesh networks
>
> freifunk
>
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=freifunk+berlin
>
> also when people woke up to the cables of the net all going thru the US
> there was at least talk of making new infrastructure on other land masses
>
> i wrote about the chatanooga model that freed the fiber under the city of
> chatanooga and also the future being wireless hubs not broadband ... look
> to what the powers are making frameworks for and develop outside that realm
> using its flaws
>
> when i lived in syria i had video calls in the middle of the desert ... no
> cell towers in sight -
>
> iraqis had video calling in 2000 or even 1999 - anyone that had an
> efficient fone (nokia was big)
>
> in other words the whole system is throttled and thats not just about speed
>
> but quantum computing development is being ignored ?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:03 AM, Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:
>
>> Posting 'useful' (your definition) older emails like this I think is good.
>>
>> >> 4. The non-profit, open-source, volunteer internet providing services
>> >> or products at no cost or for donations.
>> >>
>> >> 5. The closed sub-internets, mil-gov classified, SCADA, restricted
>> >> and special purpose networks used by operators and administrators of
>> >> backbones, nodes, satellite, cable, wired and wireless systems,
>> >>
>> >> Second, the unknown internets, with or without evident access logging:
>> >>
>> >> 6. The covert policing and spying internet which watches, logs,
>> >> mucks around, runs stings, causes accidents and shut-downs, cuts
>> >> cables, runs surprise tests and attacks, and keeps alive the demand
>> >> for covert oversight of all the known others.
>> >>
>> >> 7. The covert internets which hide among all the others, or try to
>> >> subject to discovery by 6.
>> >>
>> >> 8. The evanescent internets which are set up, used and disappear
>> >> quickly, openly or covertly, subject to 6.
>> >>
>> >> 9. The wayward and waylaid internets which cannot be identified:
>> >> rogues, experiments, mistakes, erratic systems, unexpected
>> >> glitches and consequences, acts of nature, forgotten protocols,
>> >> inept code, destructive code, lost access techniques, death
>> >> of the perpetrators.
>> >>
>> >> 10. Internets of combinations, hybrids, deceptions, ploys and
>> >> warfare among 1-9.
>>
>> We need a good name for the internet with these attributes:
>> - not so ad-hoc
>> - physical layer
>> - localised/ immediate neighbourhood area mini-nets
>>
>> - eventually (if useful) a meta network connecting these
>>
>> Since in general we don't own our internet tubes, the mostly
>> profit-motivated companies that do have ongoing economic incentive to
>> centralize, control, be taken over by larger fish.
>>
>> We need to grok a counter-principle, such that we can over the longer
>> term reverse this trend.
>>
>> This requires perhaps some perceivable benefit(s) to the local
>> neighbours and their phy nodes, to warrant the hour or so required to
>> connect to each other.
>>
>> So where could such features/ benefits arise?:
>> - some new dynamic of torrents?
>> - local/ community "library" concept?
>> - privacy?
>> - anonymity?
>>
>
>
>
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