request for comment re "contributor-covenant.org"

[Cari Machet]

love it ! thanks ted

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Ted Smith <tedks at riseup.net> wrote:

> Somewhat confusing threading here Cari.
>
> I see a few possibilities as to what I could do here:
>
>       * Be vigilant in calling out patriarchal, racist, and generally
>         neoliberal or fascist ideas promoted by some of the more recent
>         arrivals.
>               * This would provided a benchmark on the list indicating
>                 that these ideas are not generally accepted.
>               * This would also require me to argue with assholes on the
>                 Internet. As the say goes, pigs, mud, etc..
>       * Filter these people out and try to maintain productive on-topic
>         discussion.
>               * This would be of limited usefulness since people who I
>                 generally find to be quality contributors continue to
>                 respond to the Stormfront-esque crowd.
>       * Filter the whole list, comb through it periodically to see if
>         there is any useful signal, and call out the most egregious
>         offenses I can find.
>               * This is what I've chosen to do since it is optimal from
>                 my time perspective.
>
> I think this list is a lost cause at this point. Ever since around the
> time it became more discoverable after the switch from al-qaeda.net to
> cpunks.org, and some possibly overzealous cross-posting, the discourse
> has shifted from actual cypherpunkery to white men complaining about
> having their privilege eroded on other mailing lists. There are a number
> of quality contributors that no longer post here, reducing the signal
> and allowing more noise. I can't bring them back. But I can at least
> remind anyone more moderate listening that the cypherpunks list wasn't
> always a far-right discussion group, which I think is the reverence due
> to the community that used to exist.
>
> I'd appreciate any suggestions, onlist or offline, from anyone who
> thinks similarly of the ideological drift of this list from generally
> anti-authoritarian to crypto-white nationalism.
>
> On Fri, 2016-02-05 at 20:37 +0100, Cari Machet wrote:
> > Dear ted you are part of the community and you can work to make it
> > better or just complain about yesteryear
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2016 3:19 AM, "Cari Machet" <carimachet at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         Code of conduct no but community agreements yes ... plus
> >         social norms and social engineering is alive and well even
> >         here on cypherpunks ... should we make a list?
> >
> >         What is comming up here is restorative justice by subjects
> >         that have no clue that there is such a concept
> >
> >         On Jan 27, 2016 5:50 PM, "Rayzer" <Rayzer at riseup.net> wrote:
> >                 Zenaan Harkness replies to: 1/27/16, Peter Tonoli
> >                 wrote::
> >                 >> On the other hand, I can't see Cypherpunks agreeing
> >                 to a 'code of
> >                 >> > conduct', or adhering to it.
> >                 > Come on ... surely you jest?!?
> >
> >                 When Abbie Hoffman was asked about the nature of the
> >                 Chicago 7, 6, 8, 10
> >                 'conspiracy' he replied:
> >
> >                 > "Conspiracy? We can't even agree on lunch."
> >
> >                 --
> >                 RR
> >
> >                 "Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to
> >                 pinpoint potential trouble-makers ... And neutralize
> >                 them, neutralize them, neutralize them'
> >
> >
>
> --
> Sent from Ubuntu
>



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