from Zenaan - was Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

[coderman]

hey Zenaan!

got some copy-pasta stuck in the dest; probably not censored :)

> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>
>      cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org ....

            ^- >> cypherpunks at cpunks.org



On 2/26/16, Zenaan Harkness <zenaan at gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, new threads by me are definitely getting rejected, and
> instantaneously too...
>
> Due to a separate rejection, I take it that cross-posting has also
> been banned for my email address.
>
> I will not do any run around of creating (or using) an alternate email
> address especially for cp at .
> That's just an arms race and as I've always said:
> - it has been and remains my intention to respect the intentions of
> the founders/ creators of this mailing list
>
> So whoever is running/ administrating this list has decided they want
> to clip my wings. In principle that's fair enough, BUT:
>
> - no one ever emailed me offlist or onlist saying that they are an
> administrator of the list and that they wanted me to post less, or to
> meet some other conditions
> - such behaviour is cowardly, like a stab in the back
> - such behaviour provides no opportunity for me to respect the
> administrator(s) of the list - since they never owned up to being an
> administrator, and never admitted to me their requirements about
> posting less or in some other way, they are being cowardly and
> providing no opportunity to me, to meet their requirements
> - I do not accept cowardly behaviour from list administrators
> - I thought cp@ was not a list of cowards, or for cowards
>
> I am not interested in participating in half a mailing list (one where
> I can only receive emails and reply to other people, but not post new
> threads and not cross-post).
>
> I am not interested in participating in a mailing list where temporary
> (or permanent) restrictions are put in place without notice to the
> person being restricted. I will not accept such cowardly behaviour.
>
> SO, short of the cypherpunks list administrator(s) apologising to me
> for their cowardliness, and reinstating my posting privileges for my
> primary email address, and stating clearly their requirements for
> posting to the list, and doing this publicly on the list so other
> people know the requirements for posting to the list, then I shall
> remove myself from this so-called "community" and find some other
> place where who I am is respected, and where cowards are told to grow
> the fuck up! Some place where children are not pretending they're
> adults with their cowardly behaviour.
>
> Alex, Juan, Jim, coderman and Steve, in one way or another you have
> eached gained my respect. Thank you each for being who you are. If any
> of you have a suggestion for an alternate mailing list, I would
> certainly consider joining. I am still not in a stable enough living
> environment nor with any ADSL internet access, so I am still not in a
> position to set up an email server myself - but I am confident that
> this situation will change within about 1 year.
>
> Best regards,
> Zen
>
> PS, if anyone wants to post this email publicly, I certainly consent
> to you doing so.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon at googlemail.com>
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:38:22 +0000
> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> To: zenaan at gmail.com
>
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>
>      cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org
>
> Technical details of permanent failure:
> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the
> server for the recipient domain cpunks.org by mail.jfet.org.
> [209.141.47.85].
>
> The error that the other server returned was:
> 550 5.1.1 <cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org>... User unknown
>
>
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> Subject: Re: A sane platform for president - what is your fundamentals for
>  Eben Moglen?
> From: Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net>
> To: cyphercypherpunks at cpunks.org
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>
> I've had an offlist comment that the following is a great start, so
> I'll try sending it again. Good luck little email...
>
>
> On 2/25/16, Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:
>> So Eben is going to run for president.
>>
>> Let's make his job easy - write a first draft of his platform.
>>
>> There is the detailed version, for the geeks 'round these parts, and
>> the simple version, for the footy tribe.
>>
>> 0. Constitutional basis - executive orders affirming each and every
>> (??) clause of the Constitution of the United States of America.
>>
>> 1. Eliminate all non-court ordered (by a human judge, and with no
>> order covering more than two target individuals at a time) monitoring
>> (monitoring of all forms).
>>
>> 2. Eliminate the CIA. Eliminate Machiavellian military "exploration"
>> and all state-sponsored and any other coups and regime changes.
>>
>> 3. ???
>>
>