[Fwd: Multiple Internets]

[Cari Machet]

there are mesh networks

freifunk

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=freifunk+berlin

also when people woke up to the cables of the net all going thru the US
there was at least talk of making new infrastructure on other land masses

i wrote about the chatanooga model that freed the fiber under the city of
chatanooga and also the future being wireless hubs not broadband ... look
to what the powers are making frameworks for and develop outside that realm
using its flaws

when i lived in syria i had video calls in the middle of the desert ... no
cell towers in sight -

iraqis had video calling in 2000 or even 1999 - anyone that had an
efficient fone (nokia was big)

in other words the whole system is throttled and thats not just about speed

but quantum computing development is being ignored ?





On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:03 AM, Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:

> Posting 'useful' (your definition) older emails like this I think is good.
>
> >> 4. The non-profit, open-source, volunteer internet providing services
> >> or products at no cost or for donations.
> >>
> >> 5. The closed sub-internets, mil-gov classified, SCADA, restricted
> >> and special purpose networks used by operators and administrators of
> >> backbones, nodes, satellite, cable, wired and wireless systems,
> >>
> >> Second, the unknown internets, with or without evident access logging:
> >>
> >> 6. The covert policing and spying internet which watches, logs,
> >> mucks around, runs stings, causes accidents and shut-downs, cuts
> >> cables, runs surprise tests and attacks, and keeps alive the demand
> >> for covert oversight of all the known others.
> >>
> >> 7. The covert internets which hide among all the others, or try to
> >> subject to discovery by 6.
> >>
> >> 8. The evanescent internets which are set up, used and disappear
> >> quickly, openly or covertly, subject to 6.
> >>
> >> 9. The wayward and waylaid internets which cannot be identified:
> >> rogues, experiments, mistakes, erratic systems, unexpected
> >> glitches and consequences, acts of nature, forgotten protocols,
> >> inept code, destructive code, lost access techniques, death
> >> of the perpetrators.
> >>
> >> 10. Internets of combinations, hybrids, deceptions, ploys and
> >> warfare among 1-9.
>
> We need a good name for the internet with these attributes:
> - not so ad-hoc
> - physical layer
> - localised/ immediate neighbourhood area mini-nets
>
> - eventually (if useful) a meta network connecting these
>
> Since in general we don't own our internet tubes, the mostly
> profit-motivated companies that do have ongoing economic incentive to
> centralize, control, be taken over by larger fish.
>
> We need to grok a counter-principle, such that we can over the longer
> term reverse this trend.
>
> This requires perhaps some perceivable benefit(s) to the local
> neighbours and their phy nodes, to warrant the hour or so required to
> connect to each other.
>
> So where could such features/ benefits arise?:
> - some new dynamic of torrents?
> - local/ community "library" concept?
> - privacy?
> - anonymity?
>



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