reason vs. rationalization
John Newman
jnn at synfin.org
Mon Dec 5 04:12:20 PST 2016
> On Dec 5, 2016, at 12:14 AM, juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 23:43:39 -0500
> Steve Kinney <admin at pilobilus.net> wrote:
> --
>
>> odd. I thought the task of "true philosophy" was to evaluate
>> the internal consistency of logical statements, in a context where
>> physical evidence or relevance to material situations is not
>> considered.
>
> No it isn't. You don't know what philosophy means. Hardly
> surprising coming from a supporter of theocratic fraud, or a
> sworn enemy of truth, like you.
>
>
>> Or is that mathematics?
>
> It isn't mathematics either. But thanks for showing you know
> fuck about mathematics as well.
>
>
>> The barrier between the two gets
>> a bit fuzzy when Goedel's work
>
>
> Pseudo intellectual charlatan trying to look cool by invoking
> a 'well known' pseudo intellectual charlatan
Wait - how is Goedel a "pseudo intellectual charlatan"?
Because he believed in God?
His personal religious beliefs, as misguided as they may have been, don't discount his body of work.
>
>
>> gets dragged in, proving that proofs
>> prove nothing.
>>
>> Rationalization normally means arguing backward toward a preconceived
>> conclusion, in a process where logical contradictions and discarding
>> or misrepresenting physical data are permissible - usually to justify
>> or prove arbitrary and/or emotionally motivated propositions. That
>> seems very much like philosophy to me.
>
> No stupid piece of shit. What you are describing is
> jew-kristianity.
>
> Philosophy, as it name implies, is the search of
> truth/knowledge prompted by a love of truth/knowldege.
>
> A love of knowledge is exactly what apologists of
> jew-kristianity lack since their whole 'worldview' is built
> around the most stupid lies ever.
>
>
>
>> On the other hand, the task of science
>
> Intelectual frauds babbling about science. This list is really
> something.
>
>
>
> is to test well defined
>> assertions about physical processes by attempting to falsify them with
>> observational data or experimental results contradicting those
>> assertions. Where does hitching "reason" to the material world get
>> you? Bang, zoom, to the Moon, Alice!
>>
>> :o)
>>
>>
>>
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