Aaron Swartz - the real reason he was murdered

Marina Brown catskillmarina at gmail.com
Mon Dec 12 19:25:13 PST 2016


On 12/11/2016 09:58 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 12/11/2016 07:28 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>> On 12/11/2016 08:18 PM, Mirimir wrote:
>>> So, as with any troll, it's best to ignore him. Rather than call for
>>> moderation, why not just filter his messages? I would never have seen
>>> this, except that Ceci redacted his name. So why should I care what Z_n
>>> or other trolls write to this list? I can't control their speech, and I
>>> believe that attempting it would be immoral.
>>
>> Because the list as a whole is devalued by the continued lack of
>> moderation. This is not whitesupremistneonazipunks, this is cypherpunks.
>> I am not challenging his freedom of speech, but this is not the forum
>> for that. It would be perfectly on-topic for a neo-nazi or KKK list.
>> That is not this list!
> 
> I get your concern. Naive users, coming across these messages through
> search sites, might get a bad impression. But please consider that
> freedom and autonomy are key cypherpunk values. Along with technical
> competence. So the best outcome is helping people manage unmoderated
> lists on their own, without reliance on centralized control.
> 
> Also, please consider that causing grief is the key goal for trolls. And
> consider how forcing an ideologically unmoderated list to moderate
> itself would be _such_ a fucking win for Z_n. No?
> 

I never filtered Zzz manually - but my filters got him somehow. Not
missing him.

I hope everyone else with good content can update their
spam/troll/asshole filters and start with some decent content here
again. I hear some heart - Thanks Cecilia - lets keep it up.

--- Marina

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