Revolt Against Tor Over Rape Claims, Process, Board, Etc

Mirimir mirimir at riseup.net
Sat Aug 20 21:02:41 PDT 2016


On 08/20/2016 09:20 PM, Razer wrote:
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> On 08/20/2016 07:42 PM, Mirimir wrote:
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>> My point is that you haven't characterized the players accurately.
> 
> Ok then... Characterize them. I assume most of the outcasts and
> mutineers are NOT 'suits', or government affiliated.

But maybe that's just what they want us to think ;)

And maybe there's conflict among government-affiliated factions. DOS vs
NSA vs CIA vs FBI etc.

> (Albeit there may be infiltration occurring in the ranks of the
> disaffected... because it's quite easy to act disaffected,. Sort of like
> it's easy to learn the Marxist dialectic and infiltrate a Marxist
> organization... Which is Why counterculture groups fared better in the
> infiltration department during Vietnam anti-war activities too... "Here
> (cop) take this LSD...")

Maybe acid is part of high-level CIA training ;)

> But I digress... Characterize them

Hopeless :(

> Rr
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>> On 08/20/2016 07:27 PM, Razer wrote:
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>>> On 08/20/2016 03:09 PM, Mirimir wrote:
>>>> On 08/20/2016 08:54 AM, Razer wrote:
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>>>>> On 08/20/2016 04:02 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 06:23:12AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
>>>>>>> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2016-August/042032.html
>>>>>>> Fri Aug 19 11:34:54 UTC 2016
>>>>>>> thread
>>>>>>> Shutting down my tor relay
>>>>>>> Stephan Seitz <stse+tor at fsing.rootsland.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Tor decide to piss off and disconnect the honest relay operators (or
>>>>>> as much of them as possible) while keeping the luser cattle?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AFAIK the onion anonymity highly depends on the honesty of the relays in
>>>>>> the "circuit" (or whatever they call it, never mind).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This way all relays will be spooks', while now only most of them are.
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Kind of what it looks like. I was busi]y watching the 'culture clash'
>>>>> between 'the suits', and what I affectionately call the 'bone in the
>>>>> nose and earlobe hole' crowd. That's part of the process. Ejecting or
>>>>> forcing out the alts and 'outlaws'.
>>>>
>>>> So you think that Andrea will eventually get lynched?
>>>>
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>>> I don't know any of the players in this Sadomasochistic organizational
>>> implosion (I'm not a torproject sock puppet as Juan's deluded rants
>>> state). I've just seen this clash of cultures and the backbiting and (as
>>> we can see) literal slander before somewhere.
>>
>> My point is that you haven't characterized the players accurately.
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>>> For some reason it seems particularly well-planned out when one culture
>>> is the government, and money, and the other culture's ethics
>>> 'revolt'(snigger) at those things being primary.
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>> It's not that simple. I'd say that there are at least five cultures: 1)
>> spooks; 2) suits; 3) SJWs; 4) classic geeks; 5) SJW geeks. It's a
>> cluster-fuck.
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