Quantum entangled-photon Chinese satellite.

jim bell jdb10987 at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 4 14:58:11 PDT 2016



 From: juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com>
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:49:12 +0000 (UTC)
jim bell <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Apparently, that is true.   The tantalizing thing is that SOMETHING
>> APPEARS   (information, of some nature) to be transferred between one
>> particle and another, distant one, and yet there seems to be no way
>> to use that transfer to actually transmit useful FTL 

 >  Which sounds rather absurd no?
Certainly that sounds absurd!   It IS absurd!  Which explains a lot of the fascinationhas for entangled photons and related phenomena.  Einstein never liked the quantum-mechanics idea, famously declaring "God does not play dice with theuniverse".     Unfortunately for Einstein, dice are actually played.
In fact, Einstein's EPR Paradox (Einstein, Podolski, Rosen) was invented byEinstein himself in an attempt to prove that quantum mechanics could notbe a complete statement of the problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox 
This principle said that IF quantum mechanics were a complete statement of the problem, then something seemingly impossible [fill in the blank with FTL information travel] would occur.  Einstein wasquite convinced that nothing (including no information) could travel faster than'c'.  Amazingly, it appears that nature ("God", for the religious among you) has actedsimultaneously to protect the quantum mechanics theory, but ALSO to protect Einstein's belief that nothing could travel faster than 'c'.   If anybody should discovera method to use entangled photons to effectively transmit data FTL (and thus,presumably at infinite speed) that person would surely deserve a Nobel Prize inPhysics.

 >Either this is ordinary EM
 > phenomena that propagate at the so called speed of light, or
 > it is something else which could propagate at 'faster than
 > light' speed. 
It's at least 10,000 times 'c' the speed of light in a vacuum, according toexperiments involving fiber optics.  It might be essentially infinite.

  >  If 'something' is moving at faster than light speed, then some
  > information must be being transmitted. If no information is
>    being transmitted, then by definition, there's no way to measure
  >  speed and the claim makes no sense.
Well, that's the problem.  Knowing that SOMETHING is being transmitted, and actuallyUSING that method to transmit useful information, are (quite strangely) two differentthings.  That, also is the amazing implications of entangled photons.

               Jim Bell
  
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: text/html
Size: 7163 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/attachments/20160804/d28b52d5/attachment-0002.txt>


More information about the cypherpunks mailing list