Die Zeit interviews Appelbaum ioerror

Razer rayzer at riseup.net
Fri Aug 19 17:50:28 PDT 2016



On 08/19/2016 05:04 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 07:35:53AM -0700, Juan's Tor Sock Puppet wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 08/18/2016 10:15 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>
>>> existing CIA funded "tor" network
>>
>> Can you actually provide documentation the CIA funds the network itself
>> en toto as opposed to, lets say, operating entrance and exit nodes?
>>
>> Rr
> 
> Kudos for your nick- belly laugh on that one :)
> 
> I think you're splitting hairs.
> 
> Whether it's the DOD or the CIA, some black budget line items, "third
> party" "arms length" (but CIA backed) financial contributors, or indeed
> perhaps that's why the lead Tor devs get $100K+ salaries - may be off
> the books, they're obliged to spend $30K of that on dir auths, exit
> nodes, whatever, or any combination of the above,
> 
> it's splitting hairs.
> 
> The primary funder on the books, from memory, is the DOD.
> 
> The primary beneficiary are the CIA crooks who run around the world
> attempting to overthrow governments around the world. They get to have a
> very fancy and very functional overlay "free speech" network to assist
> them with their dirty deeds.
> 
> Feel free to split hairs though - that only feeds the genuine concern.
> 


I just want to remind you the Vietnamese whupped us with WWII vintage
weapons, tiger traps, and pertinently ... sandals made from the tires of
stolen US Jeeps. Tor might be that Jeep.


A 'transparent and independently funded' fork of Tor seems to be
appropriate. To continue the 'war' analogy You don't throw away a weapon
just because it was made by the enemy but you DO check to see if it's
boobytrapped and neutralize it before use.

Rr

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