Media's Lack of Knowledge of Law should be Embarrassing
Rayzer
rayzer at riseup.net
Wed Aug 10 11:05:10 PDT 2016
My tweets regarding the latest stupid thing fat boy said to get the
cameras pointing at him (/and the media is making BANK on advertising
due to his words, not a one of which he believes/) had this tenor:
There's no law against suggesting people go hunting politicians
INCLUDING Donald Trump. Beware of an 'incitement' rap, and:
I'd gladly trade a bunch of dead politicians INCLUDING DONALD TRUMP, for
a similar number murdered by police for #WalkingWhileBlack and
#DrivingWhileBlack
Rr
On 08/10/2016 01:59 AM, jim bell wrote:
> Today, there was yet another manufactured scandal involving the media.
> Apparently Trump
> made a comment about Hillary Clinton and the NRA, which the mainstream
> media is portraying
> as some sort of a threat against her. No doubt that media is unaware of
> the Supreme Court
> case Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969),
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio According
> to Wikipedia, this decision held that "The Court held that government
> cannot punish inflammatory
> speech unless that speech is directed to inciting, and is likely to
> incite, imminent lawless action.
> Specifically, it struck down Ohio's criminal syndicalism statute,
> because that statute broadly
> prohibited the mere advocacy of violence."
>
> This decision has never been overturned, although there are probably
> many subsequent cases, mostly
> district court and appeals court, which cite it. This decision is
> important to me especially: I wrote
> my Assassination Politics essay, and because of Brandenburg I am
> supposed to be Constitutionally
> protected even if I advocate violent crime, unless it will involve
> "imminent lawless action", such as
> a riot.
>
> I think the mainstream media (MSM) should be flailed (figuratively
> speaking, of course!) for
> "interpreting" Trump's statement, choosing the interpretation they
> conclude will be considered most
> outrageous, and then pushing that as if it is somehow accurate and
> relevant. Do they ever do that
> for his main opponent, Hillary Clinton? Not very often, if at all.
>
> Another thing that should be done is to criticizing the news media for
> implicitly valuing Hillary
> Clinton's life higher than that of other people. While it may seem odd
> to value a life, courts do this
> frequently, often in the context of a civil lawsuit based on a wrongful
> death. For example, if
> a life is 'worth" $100,000 per year and actuaries can state how much
> longer than life would last, say 30
> years, if that person wrongfully dies, the damage is 30 x $100,000, or
> $3 million.
>
> If, when elected, Hillary Clinton will waste, say, $500 billion per
> year, that amounts to the
> equivalent of: $500 billion/$3 million, or 167,000 lives per year.
> The kind of people who would criticize
> Donald Trump's "NRA" statement involving Hillary would presumably claim
> that all human life is
> equal in value: If they really believe that, they should realize that
> they must not value Hillary's life
> over that of a typical citizen. How does the value of 1 life compare
> with 167,000 lives, the latter in
> each year over four years? (No doubt that others will believe that
> Trump will also waste money;
> however, the numerous examples of new spending Hillary has proposed
> would have to result in
> huge tax increases, or at least enormous deficit spending, which is
> merely delayed taxation, or inflation.)
>
> I believe that the public should be able to protect themselves against
> corrupt and incompetent
> politicians. Naturally, those politicians won't agree.
>
> Jim Bell
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