How Putin Controls the Internet and Popular Opinion in Russia

Brenda Fernández me at
Tue Sep 22 11:09:03 PDT 2015

Sorry, wrong thread.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Brenda Fernández <me at>

> USG incompetence is hard to understand in these matters. I have no idea
> why they fuck up like this, getting involved in a conflict, supporting a
> side their are against to fight against the other side they are supposedly
> also against, but always on paper, they will never go there be killed. So
> why involve yourself in the first place other than to destroy what remains
> of your reputations, what remains of your money and relevance? But it's
> interesting nonetheless, to watch and see them fall, which they've been
> invariably doing since Vietnam.
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Razer <Rayzer at> wrote:
>> On 09/22/2015 05:26 AM, rysiek wrote:
>> > They are both fucked up, in many *different* (systemic racism in the US;
>> > systemic homophobia in Russia), and several *similar* ways (oligarchy
>> running
>> > things). And yet they are able to play us, because predominantly we
>> simply
>> > cannot see the bigger picture and cannot seem to understand *anything*
>> more
>> > complicated than the simplified beyond belief "USA BAD RUSSIA GOOD" (or
>> the
>> > other way around) worldview.
>> For so many years now the geopolitical 'grand game' has been "Good
>> Cop/Bad Cop", "Mutt and "Jeff" played on the typically indigenous
>> people-d extractive resources nations (and in other ways against the
>> west's manufacturing satraps) by the US AND Russia. Either you pick one
>> side or the other or we have a war in YOUR country where YOUR people get
>> killed and your society/way of life destroyed. There are no "nice guys".
>> On the other hand I bristle when Syria's ally is accused of warmongering
>> for doing what allies are supposed to do. Come to their defense in the
>> traditional manner against an army of mercenaries that the West claims
>> on one hand to be fighting, and on the other, had a large part in it's
>> creation.
>> Americans just sat idly by with their thumbs up their asses in denial
>> while the State Dept and CIA created AQv2 from the Libyans we hired to
>> sodomize Muammar al-Gadaffi with swords, and if the Russians want to
>> eradicate that threat to Syria and the region, have at it.
> --
> Brenda Fernández
> me at
> <>

Brenda Fernández
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