Re: Would you work if you didn’t have to?

grarpamp grarpamp at
Fri Sep 18 09:33:20 PDT 2015

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Lodewijk andré de la porte
<l at> wrote:
> 15k is really quite enough (at least in NL). This also to prevent complete

Subsistance is the correct level, possibly less, but no more.
The makeup / more comes from work in your areas of interest.
Subsistance is also trends pointless status quo, which is fine if you
don't wish to get off the rock. Also, other than energy from the Sun,
we are ultimately closed system. Thus if everyone adopts strict
subsistance with no extra interest work to support it, and you're
not 100% precise at redistribution with no loss, it fails.
Market royalties depend on tapping extra work of others.
BI is just another take on socialism, like any other system it works
good until it is pushed further than natural control factors allow.
Systems at law are enforced means to get what you want, or balance
things, at others expense, beyond inherent puppetability and usury
of free markets.
Some balancing is needed, so we talk of BI, wealth leveling,
universal healthcare, education, etc. This is natural control, happens
when puppeteers make up 1% of 99% puppeted. As in history,
if left unbalanced too long or deep, the slaves revolt and reboot.

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