How Putin Controls the Internet and Popular Opinion in Russia

Juan juan.g71 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 23 11:48:48 PDT 2015


On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 06:22:43 -0300
Brenda Fernández <me at brendafernandez.com> wrote:

> so all they do is in their actual best interest and they aren't
> failing and on the brink of collapse?


	LMAO! The USG is on the brink of collapse? Lay off the drugs.


> 
> Care to clarify apart from trolling?

	the fuck do you mean, trolling? 

	

> 
> k, thx!
> 
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 15:05:14 -0300
> > Brenda Fernández <me at brendafernandez.com> wrote:
> >
> > > USG incompetence is hard to understand in these matters.
> >
> >         there isn't any incompetence involved.
> >
> > > I have no
> > > idea why they fuck up like this,
> >
> >
> >         right, you don't.
> >
> >
> >  getting involved in a conflict,
> > > supporting a side their are against to fight against the other
> > > side they are supposedly also against, but always on paper, they
> > > will never go there be killed. So why involve yourself in the
> > > first place other than to destroy what remains of your
> > > reputations, what remains of your money and relevance? But it's
> > > interesting nonetheless, to watch and see them fall, which
> > > they've been invariably doing since Vietnam.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Razer <Rayzer at riseup.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 09/22/2015 05:26 AM, rysiek wrote:
> > > > > They are both fucked up, in many *different* (systemic racism
> > > > > in the US; systemic homophobia in Russia), and several
> > > > > *similar* ways (oligarchy
> > > > running
> > > > > things). And yet they are able to play us, because
> > > > > predominantly we
> > > > simply
> > > > > cannot see the bigger picture and cannot seem to understand
> > > > > *anything*
> > > > more
> > > > > complicated than the simplified beyond belief "USA BAD RUSSIA
> > > > > GOOD" (or
> > > > the
> > > > > other way around) worldview.
> > > >
> > > > For so many years now the geopolitical 'grand game' has been
> > > > "Good Cop/Bad Cop", "Mutt and "Jeff" played on the typically
> > > > indigenous people-d extractive resources nations (and in other
> > > > ways against the west's manufacturing satraps) by the US AND
> > > > Russia. Either you pick one side or the other or we have a war
> > > > in YOUR country where YOUR people get killed and your
> > > > society/way of life destroyed. There are no "nice guys". On the
> > > > other hand I bristle when Syria's ally is accused of
> > > > warmongering for doing what allies are supposed to do. Come to
> > > > their defense in the traditional manner against an army of
> > > > mercenaries that the West claims on one hand to be fighting,
> > > > and on the other, had a large part in it's creation.
> > > >
> > > > Americans just sat idly by with their thumbs up their asses in
> > > > denial while the State Dept and CIA created AQv2 from the
> > > > Libyans we hired to sodomize Muammar al-Gadaffi with swords,
> > > > and if the Russians want to eradicate that threat to Syria and
> > > > the region, have at it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 





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