Shiny stuff and designer societies (addenda)
Razer
Rayzer at riseup.net
Fri Oct 30 10:26:43 PDT 2015
On 10/30/2015 09:54 AM, Sean Lynch wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:34 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net
> <mailto:zen at freedbms.net>> wrote:
>
> On 10/29/15, Shelley <shelley at misanthropia.org
> <mailto:shelley at misanthropia.org>> wrote:
> > On October 29, 2015 11:17:05 AM Lodewijk andré de la porte
> <l at odewijk.nl <mailto:l at odewijk.nl>>
> > wrote:
> >> I'm sorry, but there's only so much one will do with disregard
> of self.
> >
> > That speaks volumes of your character.
>
> I read Lodewijk's comment as a generalised statement on the current
> predominant nature of 'Western' (perhaps all) people. As in "how
> things are" not "how I am and how I want the world to be".
>
> Character attack is sometimes not be in the interests of
> constructive dialogue.
>
> Inspiration for a 'better' world is a good thing. Resignation over the
> current world is a common thing. Finding a point of compassion in our
> conversations with each other is something I have failed at too many
> times.
>
>
> David C. Rose's "Moral Foundation of Economic Behavior" cites some
> pretty convincing evidence that individualist moralities (perhaps what
> people here are callign "Western") are inherently superior to
> collectivist. Of course, I was already biased in that direction when I
> picked up the book, so I'd be interested to hear what someone who is
> already fairly sympathetic to collectivism thinks.
I think there's a place for individualism within collectivism but the
collective comes first.
RR
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