WHY make a fake GCHQ slide?

Michael Best themikebest at gmail.com
Mon Oct 12 05:58:33 PDT 2015


>
> So assuming Snowden "borrowed" the slide from the NSA and he didn't get

owned, the slide is _REAL_.


I don't think I understand your mean, if we assuming it's real, it follows
that it's real? I think I walked into a language barrier.


> Having in mind Snowden likely have large pile of slides, if he got
> owned, likely all/the majority of them would likely be fake.
> Is this plausible?


Not necessarily, that's not how disinfo works a lot of the time.

And did you missed the us-natsec trolling about the eu appearing to
> trust Snowden's slides (though sometimes they can't prove it)?


No, there just wasn't much to respond to.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Georgi Guninski <guninski at guninski.com>
wrote:

> So assuming Snowden "borrowed" the slide from the NSA and he didn't get
> owned, the slide is _REAL_.
>
> Having in mind Snowden likely have large pile of slides, if he got
> owned, likely all/the majority of them would likely be fake.
>
> Is this plausible?
>
> And did you missed the us-natsec trolling about the eu appearing to
> trust Snowden's slides (though sometimes they can't prove it)?
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 08:22:37AM -0400, Michael Best wrote:
> > No but as I and others have noted, he didn't look at all of the materials
> > he handed over to journalists and couldn't possibly be expected to
> remember
> > all the ones he did see well enough to possibly be able to ID this one as
> > altered or forged. He was only able to argue against the other documents
> > because he had never been in touch with the outlet releasing them,
> contrary
> > to their apparent belief.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Georgi Guninski <guninski at guninski.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 07:50:14AM -0400, Michael Best wrote:
> > > > As I think I said in the other thread, less specific charges that
> require
> > > > more specific proof and almost never leveled before a trial is set,
> > > because
> > > > it forces the issue to be tried in the court of public opinion,
> where a
> > > lot
> > > > of information can't be released lest it spoil an investigation or
> > > > potential trial. There's also the fact that there'd be little to
> gain at
> > > > this point by alleging that the slides are fake since there would be
> few
> > > > people to believe it,
> > > >
> > > > "NSA hasn't said it's fake" doesn't seem like a strong argument -
> > > > especially for a non-NSA slide. And again - *Snowden himself* has
> accused
> > > > outlets of releasing slides attributed to him that *he says he did
> not
> > > > provide*.
> > > >
> > > Likely the NSA would distribute fake slides just to discredit Snowden.
> > >
> > > Does Snowden deny the authencity of this slide?
> > >
> > > This slide appeared in _too many_ news AFAICT to get unnoticed.
> > >
>
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