President Vladimir Putin Tells USA Journalist How The USA Is Supporting ISIS.

Thu Oct 8 11:10:12 PDT 2015

From: Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> to Cypherpunks with a forged
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To: Jim <jim.sovereign at optusnet.com.au>

(Or maybe something's broken somewhere... see bottom for full header)

The Russians play chess. Americans play poker.

US Foreign policy doesn't stand a chance in the "Great Game", which is
much more like chess.

RR

On 10/08/2015 06:00 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Putin is nothing if not consistent - great to see :)
> Z
>
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> On 10/8/15, Jim <jim.sovereign at optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kenneth Barrett
>> To: undisclosed-recipients:
>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 3:57 AM
>> Subject: President Vladimir Putin Tells USA Journalist How The USA Is
>> Supporting ISIS.
>>
>>
>> TUESDAY, OCTOBER 6, 2015
>> President Vladimir Putin Tells USA Journalist How The USA Is Supporting
>> ISIS
>>
>> UPDATED OCTOBER 3, 2015
>>
>> In a press conference at the Valdai Discussion Club 2014 in answer to a
>> question to a United States Journalist, President Vladimir Putin addressed
>> his concerns regarding the US and their role in the middle east and ISIS.
>> Although the film footage of the press conference has been banned, Live
>> leaks released a copy of the press conference to the public. The words of
>> Putin are transcribed below word for word from the video originally provided
>> by  Inessa S.
>>
>> The press and mainstream news has been avoiding this information. It is a
>> scathing , diplomatic account of Russia’s position on the politic behavior
>> and actions in the middle east regarding Syria and ISIS, as well as a
>> reprimand to our press who have failed to do their job.
>>
>> Putin’s complete oration to the US Journalists:
>>
>> First point. I never said that I view the US as a threat to our national
>> security. President Obama, as you said, views Russia as a threat, but I
>> don’t feel the same way about the US. What I do feel is that the politics of
>> those in the circles of power, if I may use those terms, the politics of
>> those in power is erroneous. It not only contradicts our national interests,
>> it undermines any trust we had in the United States. And in that way it
>> actually harms the United states as well.
>>
>> Undermined trust, with the understanding that they are one of the global
>> leaders in politics and in matters of the economy.
>>
>> I can stay silent on many things, but as I always say, and Dominic here has
>> mentioned it, “one sided actions” in the continuous search for the next
>> “alliance” and coalitions which are predetermined – this is not a method
>> that seeks to discus and agree on mutual grounds of understanding. These are
>> one sided actions. They are carried out all the time. They lead to crises.
>>
>> I’ve said this before, another threat that President Obama mentioned was
>> ISIS. Well who on earth armed them? Who armed the Syrians that were fighting
>> with Assad? Who created the necessary political information and climate that
>> facilitated this situation?
>>
>> Who pushed for the delivery of arms to the area? Do you really not
>> understand who is fighting in Syria?
>>
>> They are mercenaries mostly. Do you understand they are paid money?
>> Mercenaries fight for which ever side pays more. So they arm them and pay
>> them a certain amount. I even know what these amounts are. So they fight.
>> They have the arms. You can’t get them to return the weapons of course, at
>> the end.
>>
>> Then they discover elsewhere pays a little more…so they go fight there. Then
>> they occupy the oil fields.
>>
>> Where ever in Iraq, Syria, they start extracting the oil and this oil is
>> purchased by somebody. Where are the sanctions on the parties purchasing
>> this oil?
>>
>> Do you believe the US does not know who is buying it? Is it not their allies
>> that are buying oil from Isis? Do you not think the US has the power to
>> influence their allies? Or is the point that they indeed do not wish to
>> influence them?
>>
>> Then why bomb ISIS? In areas they started extracting oil and paying
>> mercenaries more in theose areas the rebels from “civilized” Syrian
>> opposition forces immediately join ISIS, because they pay more. I consider
>> this absolutely unprofessional politics. It is not grounded on facts, in the
>> real world.
>>
>> We must support civilized, democratic opposition in Syria. So you support,
>> arm them, and then tomorrow they join ISIS. Can they not think a step ahead?
>> We don’t stand for this kind of politics of the US. We consider it to be
>> wrong. It harms all parties, including you (USA).
>>
>> When it comes to the consideration of our national interests I would really
>> like it if people like you (US journalists) who posed the questions, would
>> one day head your government. Maybe then we can somehow reverse the
>> situation.
>>
>> If that doesn’t happen, I will at least ask you to deliver my messages to
>> your government. To the President of the United States, the Vice President,
>> and all other relevant people. Tell them that we do not want or look for any
>> confrontation whatsoever. When you start to consider our national interests
>> in your actions, any other disagreements we may have they will
>> self-regulate. This needs to be done, not just talked about. You must
>> consider the interests of others, and you must respect other people.
>>
>> You cannot “squeeze” others having considered only the benefits that you
>> require from whatever… in economies, in your military activities, in
>> everything. Look at Iraq the situation is terrible. Look at Libya and what
>> you did there, that got your ambassador murdered.
>>
>> Was it us that did this?
>>
>> You even had a security council decision to establish a no fly zone. What
>> for? It was so that Gaddafi’s air force couldn’t fly over and bomb the
>> rebels. This wasn’t the smartest decision, but okay… what did you proceed to
>> do yourselves? You started bombing the territory. This is in clear
>> contravention of the security council resolution. It is even outright
>> aggression over a state. Was it us that did this? You did this with your
>> bare hands.
>>
>> And it ended with the murder of your Ambassador. Who’s fault is it? It is
>> your fault. Is it a good result that your Ambassador was murdered? It is
>> actually a terrible catastrophe.
>>
>> But do not look around for somebody to blame when it is you making these
>> mistakes. You must do the opposite; rise above the endless desire to
>> dominate. You must stop acting out of imperialistic ambitions. Do not poison
>> the consciousness of millions of people like there can be no other way but
>> imperialistic politics.
>>
>> We will never forget our relationship when we supported the US in the war of
>> independence (civil war). We will never forget that we collaborated in both
>> world wars as allies. I personally believe that the geo strategic interests
>> of Russia and the US are essentially the same. We must focus on this
>> interrelationship.
>>
>> Written by Dianne Marshall
>>
>> The following video was translated by Inessa S .  A grateful thank you to
>> Inessa S. for all her effort to get this news out to the people.
>>
>> https://jhaines6a.wordpress.com/2015/10/06/putin-exposes-obamas-paid-isis-mercenaries-in-middle-east-and-syria/
>> Posted by enerchi at 10/06/2015 08:09:00 PM  Reactions:
>>
>> Labels: Government Corruption, New World Order, World News Headlines

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