Ecartis command results: unsubscribe

Michael Best themikebest at gmail.com
Fri Oct 16 11:53:20 PDT 2015


>
> Do you extend this same "unintended consequences" for Snowden's leaks when
> it comes to legitimate security issues, creating rifts between governments,
> creating discord among the population, accusing encryption of being the
> reason aliens haven't made contact, making it easier for FIS or terrorist
> groups to evade surveillance that has the potential to stop attacks against
> the critical infrastructure that John likes to take pictures of and post?


I take that part back, that's not a fair comparison. Snowden exposed
national security secrets including those necessary for cyber defense
(including preventative measures and identifying attacks before they
happen) of critical infrastructure i.e.  the energy grid, internet
backbone, potentially exposing assets and risk their lives etc and strain
diplomatic relations across the globe.

Whereas here, the consequences are you bitching and moaning about *not
being unsubscribed from a list*. Which is the "end result" of a troll,
somehow. Because spammers want to unsubscribe you from mailing lists. On
the plus side, I guess I won't hear from you anymore about this supposed
troll? .... I guess that's a fair deal.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Michael Best <themikebest at gmail.com> wrote:

> 1. If JYA had been willing to quietly verify that information in the first
> place, I wouldn't've had to publish it. Instead, he lied and said I faked
> the data.
> 2. I only brought it up because it was relevant to the GCHQ slide, which
> John refused to comment on except to tell me in an email to keep going.
> 3. As John has said, '*What if we harm somebody' or all this kind of
> crap. Which is strictly cowardice.*" When he didn't cooperate and then
> told me to keep going, I took that as his blessing.
> 4. The majority of those extra posts about Cryptome or using the word
> Cryptome didn't come from me, they came from people throwing accusations at
> me and deflecting from the real point which was the fxcking GCHQ slide.
> Because heaven forbid we talk about actual cypherpunk issues instead of
> accusing someone who doesn't worship Snowden or JYA enough.
> 5. Do you extend this same "unintended consequences" for Snowden's leaks
> when it comes to legitimate security issues, creating rifts between
> governments, creating discord among the population, accusing encryption of
> being the reason aliens haven't made contact, making it easier for FIS or
> terrorist groups to evade surveillance that has the potential to stop
> attacks against the critical infrastructure that John likes to take
> pictures of and post?
>
> I'm getting fed up with what feels like endless hypocrisy and personal
> attacks over a situation that I didn't play the dominant role in creating -
> JYA did. But I guess it's more fun to rabblerouse about shit and make
> accusations
>
>
>> Your trolling the list with the basically useless information that JYA
>> sold logs THAT HIS SITE OPERATION MAY NOT HAVE GENERATED (they may be
>> netsol's right?) created a spike in the use of the word "Cryptome" etc
>> on the radar of hackers and spammers, so yeah, you're responsible Mike. I
>> can almost guarantee it wouldn't have happened without you. RR
>
>
>
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