Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers?

Dr. J Feinstein drjfeinstein at mail.com
Sun Oct 11 17:39:58 PDT 2015


I call it less crazy than anything JYAs said on it
 
 

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:33 AM
From: "Tony Arcieri" <bascule at gmail.com>
To: "Dr. J Feinstein" <drjfeinstein at mail.com>
Cc: "cypherpunks at cpunks.org" <cypherpunks at cpunks.org>
Subject: Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers?
Cryptome is run by a crank who refuses to use HTTPS and thinks it's better to just let all the passive observers see completely what is being read by anyone who accesses Cryptome. If you ask him why, you'll get a deluge of crazy.
 
I think the role of Cryptome would be better served by someone who actually wants to use cryptography to secure content delivery. Call me crazy...
 
Cue claims i've been deluded by the CA cabal or don't understand SSL/TLS attacks. I don't care. Fuck your plaintext
On Sunday, October 11, 2015, Dr. J Feinstein <drjfeinstein at mail.com> wrote:

Calling bullshit. Mirimirs right, explanation makes no sense. And JYA says netsol won't let him delete the logs but Netsol says logs are disabled by default[https://www.networksolutions.com/support/how-to-enable-download-the-web-logs/] and you have to turn them on.

So how the fuckd this really happen?

Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> 
Are you arguing that users could have found those logs?

I almost can't imagine that. Logs are normally in /var/log/ somewhere,
and I can't imagine making them searchable. And indeed, I can't imagine
how Cryptome archives would have included anything from /var/log/, even
after system restore from backups.

<--SNIP-->

> Should access logs be kept for that long? Absolutely not. From what I> have read in the email exchange that was posted, the log files were> included in a NetSol total restore. My guess is that John/Cryptome did> not intentionally keep these files, and did not realize these files were> included in the archive.
But that's the thing. Logs should have been in /var/log/. And how would
the "NetSol total restore" have changed that?

> When I do incremental backups or updates on my own systems, I don't> usually go back and check the integrity of files I've already archived> in my closed system. I can see where this could be an honest mistake> that has gotten blown way out of proportion. It's a good lesson to be> more aware of these types of glitches.
I still don't get how logs would have ended up in archives. Maybe JYA
prepared a special set of archives for a collaborator. Maybe for someone
helping him to understand what had happened. And then maybe he forgot
about doing that. Hard to say.

--
Tony Arcieri
 




More information about the cypherpunks mailing list