Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers?

[Shelley]

On October 11, 2015 10:14:15 AM "Dr. J Feinstein" <drjfeinstein at mail.com> 
wrote:

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> Calling bullshit. Mirimirs right, this makes no sense. And JYA says netsol 
> won't let him delete the logs but Netsol says logs are disabled by 
> default[https://www.networksolutions.com/support/how-to-enable-download-the-web-logs/] 
> and you have to turn them on.
>
> So how the fuckd this really happen?

I truly don't know.  I don't have any more info than anyone else, I was 
just musing about how it could have happened.  Obviously, hearing  JY's 
explanation would be the best thing.

Also agree re: the /var/log issue, but I get the impression that the 
restored files weren't kept in the normal file tree structure.  Again, I 
simply don't know and I'm not trying to be an overt JY apologist - I'm just 
saying sometimes, shit happens.  It would help if he would weigh in instead 
of having dorks like me positing hypotheticals.

-S


>
> Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net>
> Are you arguing that users could have found those logs?
>
> I almost can't imagine that. Logs are normally in /var/log/ somewhere,
> and I can't imagine making them searchable. And indeed, I can't imagine
> how Cryptome archives would have included anything from /var/log/, even
> after system restore from backups.
>
> <--SNIP-->
>
> > Should access logs be kept for that long? Absolutely not. From what I> 
> have read in the email exchange that was posted, the log files were> 
> included in a NetSol total restore. My guess is that John/Cryptome did> not 
> intentionally keep these files, and did not realize these files were> 
> included in the archive.
> But that's the thing. Logs should have been in /var/log/. And how would
> the "NetSol total restore" have changed that?
>
> > When I do incremental backups or updates on my own systems, I don't> 
> usually go back and check the integrity of files I've already archived> in 
> my closed system. I can see where this could be an honest mistake> that has 
> gotten blown way out of proportion. It's a good lesson to be> more aware of 
> these types of glitches.
> I still don't get how logs would have ended up in archives. Maybe JYA
> prepared a special set of archives for a collaborator. Maybe for someone
> helping him to understand what had happened. And then maybe he forgot
> about doing that. Hard to say.
>