[cryptome] Re: [cryptome]

Shelley shelley at misanthropia.org
Fri Oct 9 19:38:51 PDT 2015


On October 9, 2015 7:30:28 PM Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:

> On 10/09/2015 07:21 PM, Shelley wrote:
> > On October 9, 2015 6:16:10 PM Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe because Mike _published_ the fucking logs, just because JYA was
> >> doing the mirror shades thing about whether the archive was or was not
> >> genuine? I mean, JYA can be a very funny man. For sure. But does that
> >> justify publishing Cryptome access logs?
> >>
> >
> > When the logs have been distributed by Cryptome via USB and torrents as
> > part of the archive for over a year?  Yeah, it's fair game.
>
> If that's true, JYA was being either unimaginably stupid, or
> unimaginably weird. Still, there was no need to publish the logs just to
> make a point. Redacted excerpts and hashes of the files would have been
> enough, no?

He did post a redacted version.  Then JYA accused him of everything from 
faking the data to being a spy.

When we post about vulns on FD/ wherever, we follow the process of 
notifying and following up before posting publicly - which we only do when 
devs or corps refuse to acknowledge or outright deny.  Right?  That's 
exactly how he went about it, and then was attacked in a most nonsensical 
manner (we didn't even get a notorious JYA poetic diatribe!)

In addition, as previously mentioned, these datasets have been in the wild 
for > 1yr.  As someone who may have found my own data in the access logs, I 
still say he did the right thing.


>
> > Note that he removed those files once JY finally gave an explanation.
>
> True. But publishing them was still unwarranted.





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