[Cryptography] Sadly predictable: Terrorism used as excuse to attack encryption

oshwm oshwm at openmailbox.org
Tue Nov 17 14:56:01 PST 2015

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Is this a troll? :D

On 17 November 2015 22:42:10 GMT+00:00, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Miroslav Kratochvil
><exa.exa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree with you that there should not be restrictions on encryption.
>> Still, the problem is elsewhere -- we simply should not encrypt
>> much. (also applies to your car analogy, btw).
>> To explain: Common people with reasonable operating systems/browsers
>> are now using bulk encryption on every single HTTP request they make,
>> on every single disk block they have, making SPF handshake with each
>> person they IM, etc.. Observe that only a really tiny amount of the
>> data is actually confidental (login tokens, business data, ...).
>> about what bulk encryption means for the consumption of computing
>> power (RSA ain't free, I'd actually expect more than gigawatts).
>> about what it means for law-enforcement agencies -- they can't even
>> simply prove that given single user is _not_ a suspect to narrow
>> search. No wonder that a politician who was assigned the task to keep
>> the society secure&thriving would actually hate any kind of
>> encryption. And that is a problem, because the simplest thing he can
>> do is a ban.
>> I'd prefer something less drastic before the ban comes, like forcing
>> the user/software selectively choose (by some smart API or a
>> designed UI) what to encrypt, leaving the rest (most) of data
>> "ecologic" and "law-enforcement friendly".
>> -mk
>> PS. In no way I suggest simply "turning SSL off", but there could be
>> way that just authenticates the data without doing encryption. Method
>> for easily marking the "secret bits" of the stream would be cool as
>> well.
>> PS2. In no way I suggest surrendering all our information to
>> big brother, but well, think of the good cops.
>I'd wager that overall code and feature bloat is the far larger
>consumer of electricity, especially since crypto in hardware.
>Also note how if your personal electricity use has dropped but
>your bill same or went up, doesn't matter what you use, they
>tax you for what they want.
>PKI like RSA has always been more costly than stream
>like AES, so some auth and special marked stream overhead
>isn't likely to save anything, because it's bloat.
>Nothing says you can't log your own proof of innocence
>Exhibitionists like you could even ship the footage in your
>house daily to your good cops for their innocent entertainment.
>Why not task yourself to keep yourself secure and thriving.
>And have a good laugh about ISIS with the good cops should
>they mistakenly knock once in a while about your crypto.

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