Shiny stuff and designer societies

Razer Rayzer at
Mon Nov 2 15:39:13 PST 2015

On 11/02/2015 03:12 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On 11/2/15, Lodewijk andré de la porte <l at> wrote:
>> 2015-11-02 22:05 GMT+01:00 Razer <Rayzer at>:
>>> It's unlikely that all the warriors Genghis Khan ever mustered had
>>> collectively even eyeballed a million people in their lifetimes.
>> What do you mean? Seriously! Millions of civilians a year? What???
>> WW1 totalled       < 260k
>> WW2 totalled       < 55000k (including famine and disease related)
> Huh? Dunno where you figures are coming from. Let's pick the hardest
> hit country, for those who just maybe missed it, my current favourite
> country, Russia:
> "World War II casualties of the Soviet Union from all related causes
> were over 20,000,000, both civilians and military, although the
> statistics vary to a great extent largely because these figures are
> currently disputed."
> Certainly above 55k. Perhaps I missed what the numbers you posted are
> meant to mean. Apologies if that's the case.

If "55000k" means 55 thousand thousand it comes a little closer. A
single year's deaths in Afghanistan doesn't come close to a legitimate
response to my statement, and the Mongols/40M I'm not buying at all.


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