Basic income (was) Re: noscript is 10 years!

Mirimir mirimir at
Wed May 27 00:03:27 PDT 2015

On 05/26/2015 05:37 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On 5/26/15, Mirimir <mirimir at> wrote:
>> On 05/25/2015 10:46 AM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
>>> It seems there must be a human factor, and something that looks a lot like
>>> a
>>> government, but I can't quite wrap my head around how to make sure each
>>> of
>>> those 7e9 redunancies can only create 7e9 basic income generating
>>> accounts, and
>>> do a moderately good job of identifying and stopping those that try to
>>> collect,
>>> via force, coercion, or deceit, more than their share of basic income.
>> The AIs could just collaborate. They would estimate what the basic
>> income guarantees should be, and negotiate shares. There would be no
>> reason to involve humans, excepting any human-AI hybrids involved.
> I think "those that try to collect via force..." refers to some of the
> 7e9 humans, not the AIs - why would the AIs need money anyway? They
> have perhaps energy need for their existence and ... that's it; except
> for some programmed "imperative" - other than survival energy need -
> any other imperative is overlaid or in addition to mere survival.

In this scenario, corporations and military have evolved into AIs and
human-AI hybrids. They don't need money. They would just be giving the
redundancies a gentle slide into oblivion, as a sentimental gesture.


> Here's hoping, fellow humans!

Not so much, I fear :(

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