Surveillance forces journalists to think and act like spies

grarpamp grarpamp at gmail.com
Fri May 1 03:41:44 PDT 2015


On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:31 AM,  <dan at geer.org> wrote:
> The advance of technology seems to be making everyone like spies
> and so forth.

/ coderman wrote:
/ and the hacker has today?

We are all independant spies and intel agencies, complete
with various responsibility, ethic and philosophy.

/ you see cyber as dual use. does same apply to spy?
/  ( gotta know side channels to close the side channels ... )

Cyber like a career?, it usually constrains to follow good or bad path.
But the spy can be selective in its use. And the more self aware it
becomes, the more that use tends toward what non spies would
consider bad.

> Hal Varian somewhat famously said that what the
> rich have today everyone will want tomorrow.  I'd suggest that
> what the intelligence community has today the rich will want
> tomorrow.

And in many cases, what intel has today, the rich
gave them yesterday.

> so much in the wider world where I have concluded that the cure for
> technologic threats is not more technology, but less.

Now that we're becoming, are able to, and have built some
of the systems early cpunks could previously only think of
and warn about, we'll get to see if tech continues to be
sprayed about as a liberal be-all cure-all, or develops
some conscious genuine brakes.

> since I'm on the record, I may as well admit it
>
>   We Are All Intelligence Officers Now
>   2014 RSA Conference, California
>   http://geer.tinho.net/geer.rsa.28ii14.txt

That record coming from the CISO of In-Q-Tel ;)



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