U. S. A.! A-me-ri-cah, f--- yeah! - How to rule the world, U.S. style

[Shelley]

I'll preface this by saying that I'm not fond of censoring list topics; I 
just skim or ignore topics/posts when they cease to interest me.

I think discussing politics and propaganda is on-topic when it regards the 
main focus of the list.  When governments intentionally weaken encryption, 
or threaten to/ actually pass draconian laws that directly affects the work 
we endeavour to do.  Censorship, even, because we need to help reroute 
people around those blocks to get their messages out and essential info in.

The pointless droning on about how much the USA and what it does sucks- and 
it does suck!- can become old.  I know it's tempting because there are a 
lot of people here who agree, but there are other listservs better suited 
for it.

Not meant to be a personal attack on anyone; I don't have a problem with 
any of you & I find it easy to scroll past that which doesn't interest me.  
Sometimes I'll even see a point of view I hadn't considered, even if the 
item in question isn't quite on-topic. Not everyone feels the same, though.

-S


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On June 23, 2015 3:34:36 PM Juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:09:01 -0700
> Shelley <shelley at misanthropia.org> wrote:
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> > +1
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> > What Cathal said.
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> > (And I'm saying it as someone extremely critical of my own government
> > and who rarely passes up an opportunity to make it known.)
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> 	So? What are you objecting to, then?
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> > On June 23, 2015 2:37:24 PM "Cathal (Phone)"
> > <cathalgarvey at cathalgarvey.me> wrote:
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> > > Propaganda is on-topic only insofar as it explores cointelpro,
> > > persona management, etc: not strictly crypto, but subversive and
> > > political (ab)uses of communications technology.
> > >
> > > And, while we're on the subject, I suspect much of this
> > > pro-anything-not-West crap is likely to be just that: cointelpro to
> > > discredit the genuine content and discourage
> > > subscription/participation by a wider audience.
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> 	Oh yes. I'm anti west agent on the payroll of? Putin? The
> 	chinese? Or?
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> 	It's quite funny though how a clown like cathal thinks he gets
> 	to decide what is and what isn't on topic...
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> 	"discredit the genuine content"
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> 	So, WHERE is the GENUINE content guys? Is it the stuff that dan
> 	geer, tim beelen, the tor apologists and the like post?
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> 	Or is it something else. Links please?
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