Re: ​ Re: Threat Model: Parents

[Travis Biehn]

That's just a slippery slope to accepting the paternalism of the state,
man. This thread continues to deliver.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Softy <softservant at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Yes, Yes I am.
> Let's be more specific.
> Child:  a minor under custodianship of another.
> Supervision:  providing meaningful oversight.
>
> No child would rightfully be raised without supervision - you don't let
> toddlers walk across the street, you don't let 6 year olds watch porn, and
> you don't let teens go to the local pub (okay, last one is location
> dependent).  Are you committing child-porn when you oversee your 2 year old
> dressing?  Are you censoring their ability to dress themselves by helping
> them choose (weather, etc) appropriate clothes?
>
> Many things in life, while we are growing and becoming mature (a process
> lasting well into our mid-20s), require oversight.  Both for safely and
> utility.  We can pretend otherwise at our and the child's own peril.  Go
> ahead and let your child smoke cigs, watch porn and read reddit; it's your
> child - do as you feel best - I suspect my child will find yours to be ....
> socially repugnant.
>
> The point is blanket statements like you made are corrosive to the
> understanding of the discussion.  Unfettered support of "the child" in all
> situations is counterproductive.
>
> Don't get going on "Parents don't always know best" ... true, they don't -
> but as long as Society allows any person in any circumstance to _have_ a
> child without any sort of parenting training, oversight, counselling, then
> Society must allow that person the ability to _raise_ their child.  For
> better or ill.
>
>
>
>
> > Claiming a child merits access - with or without supervision - can only
>> be
>> > made by the primary custodians of the child.
>> >
>> > Um, I'm sure this is me just having trouble understanding, but are you
>> saying that a parent has a perfectly legitimate right to spy on and censor
>> a child's communication?
>>
>
>


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