U. S. A.! A-me-ri-cah, f--- yeah! - How to rule the world, U.S. style

Tim Beelen tim at diffalt.com
Tue Jun 23 14:46:58 PDT 2015


Well, I guess Juan's rhetorical question is voicing my concern that 
crazy-people political rants are not what I sought when I subscribed to 
this mailing list.

Stop talking in blanket terms as 'propaganda' please, have you seen what 
ISIS PR came up with for this summer? Maybe Zenaan can cry next about 
their border inviolability next
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6663326/f5c24e5e/isis_shock_video_zomer_2015.html

Maybe you'll get inspired by people being shot in a car with an RPG, or 
the explosive necklace or drowning in a cage. Fun Fun Fun.

You can discuss the nature of western governments all you like. As long 
as an argument is well put together I and others will listen and won't 
even complain. Zenaan's stuff is neither.

Well, and in addition of bringing things to the table that are way out 
of bounds, I also happen to disagree with just everything that Zenaan 
has to say.

Zenaan not believe Russians are operating in the Ukraine.

Zenaan conflates ethnic cleansing of an ethnic minority with 
international politics.

Zenaan is tremendously biased towards a lot of issues.

Anyway, I've got a pretty sweet solution to this:

If you're running spamassassin on your mail server add the following 
rule in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf

body        ZENAAN_CAUSES_BRAINROT   / Harkness/i
score       ZENAAN_CAUSES_BRAINROT   5.0
describe    ZENAAN_CAUSES_BRAINROT   cpunks.org mailinglist IDS (Idiot 
Denial System)



On 6/23/2015 4:44 PM, Juan wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:05:20 -0400
> Ted Smith <tedks at riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> What's the cypherpunk link in this?
>
> 	That was part of a discussion on the nature of western
> 	governments and western propaganda.
>
> 	Do you think that discussions on the nature of western
> 	governments are off-topic? Maybe banned?
>
> 	Maybe we should instead talk about how terrible the suffering
> 	of US military murderers is?
>
> 	paging Nick Econopouly <nickeconopouly at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>> On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 19:41 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>> http://russia-insider.com/en/hey-obama-what-about-serbias-territoral-integrity/ri8092
>>>
>>> Summary at bottom, summarizing shifting position of "west" over
>>> some time: "So let us recount the western position:
>>>   -   It claimed to uphold the sovereignty and territorial integrity
>>> of other countries and the inviolability of borders in Europe
>>>   -   However, this did not extend to the sovereignty and the
>>> territorial integrity of Federal Yugoslavia which could be trampled
>>> at will
>>>   -   Nonetheless, albeit the territorial integrity of Federal
>>> Yugoslavia itself wasn’t worth anything, the territorial integrity
>>> of its constituent republics seeking independence was holy
>>>   -   Albeit the territorial integrity of the Yugoslav constituent
>>> republics of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina was holy,
>>> the territorial integrity of Serbia was not
>>>   -   Albeit Slovenes, Croats and Bosnian Muslims could leave
>>> Yugoslavia, Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia
>>>   -   Albeit Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia, Kosovo
>>> Albanians could secede from Serbia
>>>   -   Albeit Kosovo Albanians could secede from Serbia, Kosovo Serbs
>>> could not secede from Albanian-run Kosovo
>>>   -   Albeit Kosovo could unilaterally secede from Serbia under NATO
>>> military control, Crimea could not unilaterally secede from Ukraine
>>> under Russian military control
>>>
>>> May world be spared hunger, plague and western principles.
>>> "
>>>
>




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