NSA/FBI monitoring

Razer Rayzer at riseup.net
Wed Jun 3 10:16:10 PDT 2015


...or should I say the intel collected goes both ways but it seems the
NSA, which I don't believe actually HAS direct authorization to spy on
US citizens within the continental US gets it's intel from the FBI's
DITU. Data Intercept Technology Unit.

http://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/67983541953

Rummage around my DITU tags and you'll find one of the FBI people
assigned this task used to be a discount furniture salesman.

http://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/search/DITU

On 06/02/2015 05:52 PM, M373 wrote:
> The NSA provides data to the FBI and DEA, among others. Although it was
> known previously, this is part of what Snowden released with
> corroborating documentation. That it hasn't gotten more attention, by
> Greenwald, Snowden, et al, is one of the major credible complaints since
> the releases began in June 2013. The FBI does do its own surveillance
> and can easily tap telecoms with programs such as DCSNet and Red Hook,
> but they don't have the resources (as far I know) to do the blanket
> surveillance that NSA (and GCHQ, CSE, etc) does. NSA collects nearly all
> internet traffic in the USA with its intercept rooms at the network
> control centers that big telecoms have on the internet backbone. They
> gather almost everything, including content, not just metadata. The
> announced capacity of the Bluffton, Utah data center is several orders
> of magnitude more than is needed to store metadata alone.
>
> So, yes, some NSA data is shared with the FBI (and others) but the
> details matter. There is FBI surveillance but NSA does the blanket
> surveillance. With the FBI, as far as I know, you have to be targeted
> (except for the IMSI catcher type stuff, which are indiscriminate but
> not an nationwide/international dragnet). The AP story about the FBI
> surveillance planes is quite interesting, although fits with recent info
> and long term trends.
>
> On 02-Jun-15 18:01, yotm wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> With the NSA Patriot Act/FBI planes in the news, I recalled an IRL
>> example from 2004 of Minneapolis FBI anti-terrorism division/department
>> monitoring my cell, email and MSN Messenger communications.
>>
>> https://storify.com/flyingmonkeyair/in-which-the-fbi-surveilled-me-while-buying-a-dog
>>
>> I mention this because so far all the metadata collection info ruckus
>> has focused on the NSA.
>>
>> There's been so much data released as a result of Snowden that I've lost
>> track. Does anyone recall anything showing the FBI have access to the
>> NSA's data, or does the FBI have it's own interception going on?
>>
>> Thanks for any light shed on this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Nigel Parry
>> nigelparry.com
>> nigelparry.net
>>
>>
>
>
>


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