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Mirimir mirimir at riseup.net
Thu Jul 30 01:39:08 PDT 2015


On 07/30/2015 02:32 AM, oshwm wrote:
> would a pre-internet era set of IC's and components kick-start the process a little without losing too much trust?
> Use slow old IC's in parallel to gain something usable :)

There was NSA before Internet ;)

> On 30 July 2015 09:22:33 BST, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
>> On 07/30/2015 01:52 AM, grarpamp wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Steve Kinney <admin at pilobilus.net>
>> wrote:
> 
>> <SNIP>
> 
>>>> then it is not possible to build a trusted CPU.
>>>
>>> You watch while... I collect wood and ore and smelt into axe, you
>>> trust axe. I split tree and assemble hut, you trust hut. I put
>>> wheel in water and make mill, you trust flour. I give you magical
>>> computer before I make abacus, you throw in river and order me
>>> make abacus first. Eventually trusted CPU is made.
> 
>> Woah! How many years to build the tool chain to a trusted CPU?
> 
>> Also, how many people? And how to trust them? One bad apple, you know.
> 
> 



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